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From: Herbert Poetzl (herbert_at_13thfloor.at)
Date: Sat 05 Jul 2003 - 01:09:19 BST


On Fri, Jul 04, 2003 at 05:00:07PM -0700, gdecourt_at_yahoo.com wrote:
> Hi Herbert,
>
> Thank you very much for your answer.
>
> So, based in your answer, I thought about some
> solutions...and I got a few questions, there it is:
> - Can I run one apache in each vserver, all of them
> listening to the same IP address but in different
> ports?

I already suggested this, yes you can!

> - If the solution written up is possible, is better
> adopt it or virtual hosting?

virtual hosting uses much less resources,
but in case of a security compromise all
your domains will be affected ...

> - The unique way to get more IPs is taking them in
> the connection provider, right?

don't know what this should mean, you'll
get your ips from your provider, yes?!

> - Does exist anyway to we limit the hard disk size
> of the vserver?

yes, there are several ways ...

> **** This is all... ****
> Thank you again, and I am waiting your answer.
> Regards.
>
>
> --- Herbert Poetzl <herbert_at_13thfloor.at> wrote:
> > On Fri, Jul 04, 2003 at 12:29:41PM -0700,
> > gdecourt_at_yahoo.com wrote:
> > > Herbert,
> > >
> > > Sorry for the confusion, so I will better explain
> > the
> > > situation:
> > > - do you have one or many valid internet addresses
> > > available?
> > > ==> I just have one valid internet address
> > available
> > > - which services do you want to run/provide?
> > > ==> I want to have all my vservers providing
> > > (serving) web pages, FTP, emails, MySQL...
> > services
> > > like this ones to the internet, better explaining,
> > I
> > > want to provide hosting with this servers and some
> > > others, and make this available to all the
> > internet
> > > (and do that in each vserver).
> > >
> > > - do you want to work/hassle with NAT?
> > > ==> Sorry, but I didn't get what you mean with
> > that.
> > >
> > > I think that my second answer explained what I
> > want
> > > to achieve...but anyway I will try express myself
> > more
> > > clear: I want to each vserver runs apache, mysql,
> > and
> > > other services provided in a hosting solution, and
> > I
> > > want this services to be available to all the
> > > internet. My problem is that I just have one valid
> > > internet address to do it, and the vserver system
> > > requires one internet address to each vserver, so,
> > > what should I do?
> >
> > more on this below ...
> >
> > > I hope that now I solved the confusion.
> >
> > yes I understand now what you want, but this is
> > not possible ... why? simple explained:
> >
> > imagine you have two virtual servers, each equipped
> > with one apache listening to port 80 (http port)
> > and waiting for requests from the internet ...
> > (this is not possible at all, but just, let us
> > assume
> > it is), now some browser connects to your ip address
> > and requests a page, which apache will get the
> > request
> > which will provide an answer? so there are some
> > solutions for a limited number of ip addresses, like
> > name based virtual hosting for apache, which allows
> > you to serve many domains with _one_ apache server
> > on _one_ ip address, (if all www.xxx.yyy domains
> > point to this address), similar approaches are
> > possible
> > for email and ftp (with some magic in the login
> > names)
> > but not for mySQL or other DB services ...
> >
> > anyway, with vservers you will _not_ be able to
> > have two or more apaches listening to the same
> > address/port combination ...
> >
> > what you should do?
> >
> > there are several solutions possible:
> >
> > - get more ip addresses
> > - use virtual hosting for apache, postfix, ftp ...
> > - use different ports (80,81,82,83,84 ...)
> >
> > best,
> > Herbert
> >
> > > Thanks for the attention, and I am waiting your
> > > answer.
> > > Regards.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- Herbert Poetzl <herbert_at_13thfloor.at> wrote:
> > > > On Fri, Jul 04, 2003 at 08:49:37AM -0700,
> > > > gdecourt_at_yahoo.com wrote:
> > > > > Hi Herbert,
> > > > >
> > > > > Thank you very much for your answer...I did
> > the
> > > > > permission part and now it?s working! =)
> > > > > But I got just one more question: currently I
> > > > have
> > > > > just eth0 in my server, so, I just got one IP
> > > > address
> > > > > that is on internet...how can I get more Ip
> > > > addresses
> > > > > inside my machine, that I can apply for the
> > > > vservers,
> > > > > and make this Ip addresses "linked" to the
> > > > internet Ip
> > > > > address..so the vservers can access the
> > internet
> > > > too
> > > > > (hope I didn?t make a confusion).
> > > >
> > > > bad news, you did!
> > > >
> > > > - do you have one or many valid internet
> > addresses
> > > > available?
> > > > - which services do you want to run/provide?
> > > > - do you want to work/hassle with NAT?
> > > >
> > > > please try to describe your given setup, and
> > > > what you want to achieve ...
> > > >
> > > > best,
> > > > Herbert
> > > >
> > > > > I REALLY need some answer.
> > > > > Thanks.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --- Herbert Poetzl <herbert_at_13thfloor.at>
> > wrote:
> > > > > > On Thu, Jul 03, 2003 at 07:13:25PM -0700,
> > > > > > gdecourt_at_yahoo.com wrote:
> > > > > > > Hi Chris,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > and thanks for your help. I downloaded
> > the
> > > > > > correct
> > > > > > > kernel, installed it...made everything
> > that
> > > > you
> > > > > > said,
> > > > > > > but I still got a problem to start the
> > > > vserver.
> > > > > > > This is the massage:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Starting the virtual server spot
> > > > > > > Server spot is not running
> > > > > > > Broadcast: Unknown host
> > > > > > > ipv4root is now: 200.148.2.112
> > > > > > > Host name is now spot.localhost
> > > > > > > New secutiry context is 9
> > > > > > > Can't chroot to directory.(Permission
> > denied)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > *************************END
> > > > > > > So, after that I check and the server
> > spot
> > > > isn't
> > > > > > > running.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > What should I do?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > check the permissions of /vservers/spot
> > > > > > they should _not_ be d--------- more like
> > > > > > drwxr-xr-x ...
> > > > > >
> > > > > > also check the broadcast settings, because
> > > > > > unknown host doesn't seem valid ...
> > > > > >
> > > > > > HTH,
> > > > > > Herbert
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
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