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From: Herbert P÷tzl (herbert_at_13thfloor.at)
Date: Wed 27 Aug 2003 - 16:57:08 BST

On Wed, Aug 27, 2003 at 03:33:01PM +0200, Jon Bendtsen wrote:
> Kris Boulez wrote:
> >On Mon, 2003-08-25 at 13:27, Rus Foster wrote:
> >
> >>On Mon, 25 Aug 2003, Allen Parker wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>If you guys need a mirror, I'd be happy to provide anon-rsync, anon-ftp,
> >>>and
> >>>http access to the diskimages.
> >>>
> >>
> >>OK First copy of the files are at http://www.jvds.com/vserver. I'm just
> >>finishing up the other images
> >
> >
> >First of all, let me say that I find this a good idea.
> >
> >I do have a question though from a security point. How are these images
> >created ? Are there any scripts used we can examine/run ourselves ?
> This is a basic problem, but let me ask you another...
> Do you personaly check the patches for the linux kernel that Jaques
> makes?

yes, of course 8-)

> Are you familiar with the history of how ken tompson? got a
> backdoor into gcc?

yes, AFAIR it's in the Jargon Dict ...

> The point i am making is that you cant _TRUST_
> everything, but at some point you have to trust someone to get a
> computer, to get software, to get ...

trust in me ....

> That aside, if you want to run a debian vserver, (not neasesarely in the
> root server), then paul.allen.com? or something has a script called
> debian-newserver.sh, that creates everything from a debian mirror.
> (or so it appears, so i trust that it does get it from a mirror).
> Besides, what good is a vserver, the "root server" is MUCH more valuable.

agreed on that ...


> JonB

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