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From: Herbert Poetzl (herbert_at_13thfloor.at)
Date: Mon 13 Oct 2003 - 12:59:08 BST

On Mon, Oct 13, 2003 at 12:15:06PM +0100, ccooke_at_globalvision.com wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 10, 2003 at 06:30:16PM +0200, Herbert Poetzl wrote:
> > On Fri, Oct 10, 2003 at 05:08:53PM +0100, ccooke_at_globalvision.com wrote:
> > > On Thu, Oct 09, 2003 at 01:29:09PM -0500, Darryl Engle wrote:
> > >
> > > Leaving aside the contentious issues...
> > >
> > > Would allowing the list to use a mail server that's virus checked and
> > > spamassassinned be useful?
> >
> > the new list _is_ on such a server ...
> > we'll migrate soon ...
> >
> > best,
> > Herbert

Hi Charles!

> Need any backups? Mirrors?

not at the moment, but the time will come,
one idea in the back of my head are 'local'
mirrors like kernel.org 8-) ...

> I'm running vservers commercially as a server farm. Might as well offer
> to give something back...
> Hell, might as well ask this:
> I have a system for managing vservers in an automated fashion. It's
> deployed on our live servers and has been running them stably for months,
> but I can't release it into the wild yet - too many special cases and
> hard coded defaults in the current system - but I will as soon as I can,
> if people are interested.
> I'm including a description here, to see if I *should* try to make it
> releasable sooner tather than later. (It will happen anyway, since hell -
> it's fun to be able to release stuff. But I'm quite prepared for nobody
> else to *care*.)
> The system splits everything down into services and slots. That is, each
> task is divided into services such as www, mail, firewall, desktop etc.
> Each client computer, when you tell it to care about a service, creates
> two slots (live and test) for that service. Hence, www-live, www-test and
> so on. Multiple versions of the service are stored on a master server, and
> can be installed into slots on client computers easily.
> Specs of the system are:
> imagetool:
> Finds a master server, runs operations on local and remote
> images, including:
> Showing service types on the master, showing versions of a
> service on the master, downloading a version into a slot,
> booting that slot, rebooting a slot, shutting down a slot,
> uploading a slot to the master server (possibly overwriting
> /updating the copy on the master. This is used a great deal
> for development and first-stage testing)
> A bootable CD:
> Automatically partitions the hard disk, detects a method for
> getting network access, finds a master server, downloads
> updated boot scripts.
> Copies itself into a partition, then runs imagetool to update
> the CD image from the master (for any software upgrades that
> are needed).
> Queries the master for an imagetool script for that MAC
> address, downloads and runs it.
> If the MAC is unknown, the CD can query the user or select a
> config automatically (the default here is webserver).
> Currently, I'm adding monitoring stuff to make each server report to the
> master any variable you like to keep track of - load, disk space and so on.

sounds good to me, please release as soon as possible,
this way, others can modify/improfe/adapt or just have
a working example for how to do ...


> --
> Charles Cooke, Sysadmin

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