From: Hans Ulrich Niedermann (vserver_at_n-dimensional.de)
Date: Mon 27 Dec 2004 - 19:58:45 GMT
Stephen Frost <sfrost_at_snowman.net> writes:
> * Herbert Poetzl (herbert_at_13thfloor.at) wrote:
>> | - How should the packaging devide up the groups most conveniently?
> Good grief, Charlie Brown. That's a hell of alot of packages. The
> 0.30.195 i386 .deb that I did ended up being only 330k. I don't think
> it's useful to split up util-vserver into this many packages on Debian,
> in fact, I think it'd be a *terrible* idea. I'd say perhaps a main
> util-vserver package and a -doc package. Maybe a -lib/-dev, but only if
> something outside of util-vserver is expected to use the libraries/API
> provided by util-vserver (do any actually exist?, is it even sane?).
Putting the legacy stuff into a separate legacy package would
help new users a lot by reducing confusion as to what is legacy and
what is not.
>> | * guest systems cannot run klogd (because there is only one kernel and
>> | the klogd thus is best addressed in the host system).
>> | So a distribution has to ship an empty dummy package to satisfy the
>> | packages which depend on klogd (Debian: linux-kernel-log-daemon).
>> hmm, this is a kernel issue, and maybe we can solve
>> that at this level (by providing a fake or empty
>> connection point for klogd) but IMHO it would be best
>> to break up the syslog package into syslogd and klogd
>> (which would render this point obsolete)
> ehhh, I don't think util-vserver as a package should really care about
> this all that much. People can install syslog-ng and use that instead
> (that's what I do). A fake/empty connection point for klogd isn't all
> that bad of an idea, imv, though.
On my Debian Sarge system, these packages depend on the virtual
So there should be some package for installation on guest systems
which provides linux-kernel-log-daemon.
However, as there seems to be a concensus that there should be nothing
vserver specific to be installed on a vserver guest, it cannot be
"util-vserver" with its tools which provides linux-kernel-log-daemon,
but there must be a separate package.
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