[00:03] ho [00:03] whats new? [00:03] yes bertl I upgraded to dl0.05 [00:03] hi matt! well the O(1) ctx is new, isn't it? [00:03] seems to work [00:04] good to hear ... [00:04] I hope you used the release not the delta ... [00:05] netrose (~john877@cc-ubr03-24.171.20.14.charter-stl.com) joined #vserver. [00:10] why? [00:10] uh oh... [00:10] i used the delta [00:10] whats the problem with the delta? [00:10] it seems to work, i had to move to the dela because it gave a disk quota error even with plenty of space [00:10] because I found some bugs, while adding the delta stuff ... and fixed those on the way ... [00:10] what kind of bugs? :) [00:11] accounting bugs ... [00:11] hrm [00:11] hey, are there any plans to make the vm accounting any more "correct" ? ie. take into account cloned vm or shared memory? [00:12] coned vm is taken into account ... [00:12] shared memory isn't known to the system ... [00:12] hrm [00:13] and please define correct accounting for virtual memory, by the way ... [00:13] well, like right now when apache is started with let's say 8 children by default [00:13] it accounts it as ~100MB of VM [00:13] i guess that may be technically correct.. [00:15] you should write some test programms ... allocating/forking ... etc ... [00:16] I'm willing to adapt/improve that stuff if possible ... [00:18] alekibango (~john@b59.brno.mistral.cz) joined #vserver. [00:24] hi alekibango! [00:24] hi :) [00:25] how plone is it yet? ;) [01:00] Bertl: would using the delta cause this? [01:00] [root@vps4 cq-tools-0.06]# ./cqdlim -x 12 /dev/hda7 [01:00] inodes: 2954/1000 [01:00] blocks: 256869/1024000 (10%) [01:00] then inside 12.. [01:00] [root@fndinc /]# df -h [01:00] Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on [01:00] /dev/hdv1 4.0G 1004M 2.6G 28% / [01:01] [root@fndinc /]# touch test [01:01] touch: creating `test': No space left on device [01:01] hmm, guess this is the result of still _not_ checking inode limits ... [01:01] but it could also be the result of the wrong accounting .. [01:01] you should revert the delta and the dl0.04 .. then apply the 0.05 ... [01:01] ok, am doing that [01:07] rodger delta bravo! [01:07] echo tango foxtrott! [01:07] hehe [01:08] you all talk foreign to me [01:08] well, say something in your language, whatever it might be ... [01:09] lol imo ttl yw [01:19] hmm, maybe we should agree? ;) [01:20] Bert, I saw you talking to Alex ealier [01:20] are you thinking about giving virtual networking a shot.. [01:20] sure ... jacques is thinking about it too (I hope ;) [01:21] awesome.. [01:21] that would rock [01:21] yes [01:21] but we want to make it as simple and non intrusive as possible ... [01:21] i think changing limits in realtime would rock too [01:21] ie maxproc/mem/files [01:21] what limits? [01:21] yeah for sure [01:21] disklimit is already realtime [01:21] I will hope so ... [01:22] that disklimit stuff scared me [01:22] well the others will come too, as soon as the syscall switch is in place ... anybody willing to test? ;) [01:22] @nesh me too 8-) [01:23] what others will come too? [01:23] oh, n./m [01:23] i can test [01:23] 5:23pm up 7 days, 6:30, 2 users, load average: 82.16, 47.81, 23.16 [01:23] i hate it when that happens [01:24] damn [01:24] Mem: 1023352 1014360 8992 0 13604 73820 [01:24] -/+ buffers/cache: 926936 96416 [01:24] Swap: 2048276 839096 1209180 [01:24] it's because of that [01:24] try to analyse .. it's forking madness ... [01:25] system is pretty stable at average of 500 proc/s [01:25] as far as sar -c reports.. [01:25] hell I'm talking like alex ... have to change that ... [01:25] i have 550 no problems [01:26] processes/SECOND [01:26] ahh [01:26] my max is like 6.16 [01:26] hehe [01:27] 03:20:00 AM 15.45 [01:27] wow 15 Haha [01:27] i only have 10 VPS tho matta you have what [01:27] like 30? [01:28] yeah [01:28] many are heavily used [01:28] apprently mine are not. [01:28] and don't forget, the customers are already used to problems/downtimes, so it looks like perfect testing ground ;) [01:28] Bertl, not mine! [01:28] LOL [01:29] 5:30pm up 317 days, 22:56, 1 user, load average: 0.92, 0.63, 0.64 [01:29] hmm, is this 2.2 version? [01:29] been solid since moving to c17e [01:29] 2.2 what? [01:29] linux 2.2.x of course ;) [01:29] nopw [01:30] 5:27pm up 70 days, 6:15, 1 user, load average: 0.35, 0.27, 0.21 [01:30] my other [01:30] hmm, power failure? [01:30] newer server [01:31] plus that one is running 17 [01:31] the other is the 16- [01:31] ahh, brand new ... [01:31] yeah [01:31] 2.4.20ctx-16 [01:31] hmm [01:32] you should keep them, this way we can verify the memory leak ;) [01:32] vserver-0.21 [01:32] old stuff :( [01:32] bert of course ;) [01:33] these are prod machines no plans of going anywhere..heh [01:49] by the way, what do you think about jfs ? [01:56] anybody still with me? [01:58] netrose (~john877@cc-ubr03-24.171.20.14.charter-stl.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 492 seconds [02:00] i am [02:00] lots of work to do... [02:06] and what do you think about jfs? [02:09] i think it's good [02:09] i havn't used ot much except to have used it [02:09] but everything i reads makes it look like a good choice [02:09] for general purpose, such as vserver [02:09] reiser and xfs seem to be more for special purposes [02:10] I would like to focus on jfs for vservers as the 'primary' filesystem as long as ext3 gives some troubles ... [02:10] gives some troubles ? [02:10] but I'm not sure if this is something a production person will accept/use ... [02:11] well there are several reports of ext3 and fs corruption out there ... nothing pinpointed but ... [02:12] my test machine is rebooted verry often, and every now and then, I find a new file in lost+found on the ext3 partition ... [02:17] Newsflash: [02:17] this patch fixes the problem that huge inode cache [02:17] can make invalidate_inodes() calls very long. Meanwhile [02:17] lock_kernel() and inode_lock are being held and system [02:17] can freeze for seconds. [02:17] This patch is against 2.4.22 kernel. But as far as I can see the problem [02:17] still exists in 2.6 kernels. [02:21] diff-invlinodes-20031013 [02:36] ls [02:42] a-c-e (~ace@213.225.74.103) left irc: Ping timeout: 483 seconds [03:04] sannes (~ace@bjs1-dhcp153.studby.uio.no) joined #vserver. [03:17] Bertl: i have some deep trouble here, tommorrow i hope plone will fly [03:18] samba, ldap, etc :) [03:18] any heavy weight kernel guys here? who would know what __alloc_pages: 1-order allocation failed (gfp=0x1f0/0) is? [03:18] no problem ... [03:19] @sannes sounds like a failure ;) [03:19] serving (~serving@213.186.190.134) joined #vserver. [03:20] shuri (~ipv6@cpu183.adsl.qc.bellglobal.com) joined #vserver. [03:20] hi shuri! [03:20] hi [03:21] new server irc [03:21] huh? [03:22] forgetit [03:22] i was on irc.linz.at [03:22] lol [03:22] Bertl : sure is [03:23] Bertl : after 1 to 2 days.. [03:23] ahh, right again! common guys, group hug! [03:23] :> [03:24] what kernel version? [03:24] Derma (~ipv6@cpu183.adsl.qc.bellglobal.com) joined #vserver. [03:25] hi derma?! [03:27] Derma (~ipv6@cpu183.adsl.qc.bellglobal.com) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [03:27] is me [03:27] hehe [03:27] any ipv6 server on the network?? [03:28] this network [03:28] ahh, one voice isn't enough for you? ;) [03:28] June 12th, 2003: [03:28] OFTC's IPv6 service is currently down due to an outage at our tunnel provider. We expect to restore service in the near future. Thank you for your patience [03:30] hmm, interesting ... [03:32] Tunnel? No native? Bah. :) [03:32] I always said, nobody uses ipv6 *G* .... [03:33] sannes: this happened with a friends RedHat Advance Server 2.95.something beta machine. [03:33] sannes: never seen the error myself before. [03:34] sannes: never found the problem, just installed something else. :) [03:34] what error? [03:34] __alloc_pages: 1-order allocation failed (gfp=0x1f0/0) [03:35] on a redhat system? [03:35] Yes. [03:35] Beta though. [03:35] hmm, maybe rik knows something about ... [03:36] Bah, stupid hacked beta kernels. :) [03:36] If it was a release distribution I would've spend time on it, but not now. [03:39] well, it is driving me crazy.. hm [03:39] sannes (~ace@bjs1-dhcp153.studby.uio.no) left irc: Quit: *go to a mental hospital to get help* [03:39] look in the source ... [03:40] which beta kernel is that ? [03:42] it probably happens on non-beta kernels too, but the error message is commented out there ;) [03:42] anyone know much about using cbqinit ? [03:42] or used it in combination with vserver? [03:43] traffic management? [03:43] yes [03:43] is tc not sufficient? [03:44] not for easy management [03:44] :) [03:44] it seems to be ok... but it's not working [03:44] i'm not even trying to fuss with limiting a vserver anymore [03:44] okay but not working, aha ... [03:44] i set the dev to eth0 and the RULE to the main servers ip [03:44] and it's not limiting that [03:45] any examples? [03:45] DEVICE=eth0,1Mbit,102Kbit [03:45] PEAK=640Kbit [03:45] RATE=640Kbit [03:45] WEIGHT=64Kbit [03:45] BOUNDED=yes [03:45] PRIO=5 [03:45] RULE=69.10.150.194 [03:45] .194 is the main server ip [03:45] and who interprets that stuff? [03:45] Derma (~ipv6@3ffe:bc0:189:1:ab99:bc87:dc87:ac45) joined #vserver. [03:45] class cbq 1:1000 parent 1: rate 640Kbit (bounded) prio 5 [03:45] Sent 0 bytes 0 pkts (dropped 0, overlimits 0) [03:45] borrowed 0 overactions 0 avgidle 64 undertime 0 [03:45] shuri (~ipv6@cpu183.adsl.qc.bellglobal.com) left irc: Quit: ipv6 [03:45] it looks like it's just completely ignoring it [03:46] Nick change: Derma -> shuri [03:46] you do tag the traffic? [03:46] ipv6 is working here [03:46] nice [03:46] tag? [03:46] :) [03:46] i should read some more docs [03:48] http://www.ceenet.org/workshops/lectures2000/Rafal_Maszkowski/routing-traffic/ [03:48] ohhh [03:48] cbq only works for egress [03:48] not ingress [03:50] netrose (~john877@cc-ubr03-24.171.20.14.charter-stl.com) joined #vserver. [03:55] weird [04:08] shuri (~ipv6@3ffe:bc0:189:1:ab99:bc87:dc87:ac45) left #vserver. [04:10] shuri (~ipv6@3ffe:bc0:189:1:ab99:bc87:dc87:ac45) joined #vserver. [04:24] Val (~val@81.56.199.207) joined #vserver. [04:26] hi [04:26] hi val! [04:26] :) [04:26] I'm testing 17c [04:27] fine, move on to c17f, then ... [04:27] ...Debian (own package) patch seems working [04:27] Bertl : yes, but i didn't find any on your web page [04:28] linux-vserver.org ... [04:29] ok Stuff :) [04:29] so... [04:29] let's test the new one :) [04:29] great ;) [04:29] 'f' [04:29] Bertl: f uses the syscall? no other major changes? [04:30] you mean syscall switch? or what? [04:32] basically c17f is the candidate for the stable vserver-1.0.0 release ... no experimental features ... [04:34] yeah [04:35] gotcha [04:35] Bertl 4 days i am running ctx17f [04:35] it look stable [04:40] @val as soon as vserver-1.0.0 is out, there will be a strict versioning, and everybody will know the latest stable and development release ;) [04:41] ouch [04:41] patch reject two files [04:41] ... [04:41] hmm, not on vanilla .. [04:41] include/net/route.h and net/ipv4/udp.c [04:41] Bertl : yes, always the same problem [04:42] what kernel do you patch? [04:42] Debian 2.4.22-3 ones [04:42] -s [04:42] they have some changes, I presume ... [04:43] try with -l option ... [04:43] yes, 17c worked [04:43] -l option ? [04:43] patching with -l option ... [04:43] oh [04:43] ok [04:44] if this doesn't work, give me some url where I can get the other patches ... [04:44] ok [04:46] -l option change nothing [04:47] okay, where can I get the debian patches? [04:49] http://packages.debian.org/unstable/devel/kernel-patch-debian-2.4.22.html [04:50] the new syscall-switch userspace code is in CVS (SYSCALL_SWITCH branch) [04:50] can you make a tar for me? [04:50] Bertl : http://ftp.debian.org/debian/pool/main/k/kernel-source-2.4.22/kernel-source-2.4.22_2.4.22-3.diff.gz [04:50] .orig.tar.gz is the vanilla tarball [04:51] the last url i gave you is the one you're looking for [04:51] Bertl: http://www-user.tu-chemnitz.de/~ensc/vserver/util-vserver-0.23.90.1.tar.bz2 [04:51] thanks, both! ;) (succesful multicast) [04:52] :) [04:55] patch applied are listed in file README.Debian [04:55] in the diff [04:55] hmm, I remeber, I fixed that once ... [04:56] a-c-e (~ace@213.225.74.103) joined #vserver. [04:57] you did [05:01] Bertl : i leave, i'll come back tomorow [05:01] no problem, expect a deb version tonight ... [05:02] Bertl : ok, don't worry :) [05:02] many thanks [05:02] bye [05:02] will take approx 10 minutes ... [05:02] ouch [05:02] http://vserver.13thfloor.at/Stuff/diff-invlinodes-20031013 [05:02] gives an error [05:02] well, not my patch ;) [05:02] ok :) [05:03] bye so ;) [05:03] bye [05:03] Val (~val@81.56.199.207) left irc: Quit: have fun [05:12] hrm... [05:12] any opinions on miti? [05:12] minit ? [05:44] netrose (~john877@cc-ubr03-24.171.20.14.charter-stl.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 492 seconds [06:24] Bertl (~herbert@212.16.62.51) left irc: Quit: Bertl has no reason [06:24] Bertl (~herbert@MAIL.13thfloor.at) joined #vserver. [06:24] oops ... [06:25] matta (matta@tektonic.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [06:44] re [06:57] okay was a successful day ... [06:57] wish you all a good whatever ... [06:58] Nick change: Bertl -> Bertl_zZ [07:40] :P [07:58] mdaur__ (mdaur@p50916472.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #vserver. [08:04] mdaur_ (mdaur@p509150AE.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 483 seconds [10:12] mhepp (~mhepp@r72s22p13.home.nbox.cz) joined #vserver. 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[19:55] hi [19:57] serving (~serving@213.186.190.160) joined #vserver. [19:57] any news? [20:00] matta (matta@69.10.150.254) left irc: Quit: [hienoa] - your ass is glowing! [20:05] not really [20:06] matta (matta@69.10.150.254) joined #vserver. [20:06] shuri (~ipv6@3ffe:bc0:189:1:ab99:bc87:dc87:ac45) left irc: Quit: changing servers [20:06] shuri (~ipv6@3ffe:bc0:189:1:ab99:bc87:dc87:ac45) joined #vserver. [20:08] hi matt! [20:11] h9i... [20:11] berlt [20:11] does tagctx not work on / filesystem ? [20:12] since it is remounted at boot? [20:12] this is with dl0.05 (plus others) [20:13] [root@vps3 cq-tools-0.06]# ./cqhadd -x 4 -v /dev/hda3 [20:13] adding quota hash for /dev/hda3 ... failed: Function not implemented [20:14] /dev/hda3 / ext3 defaults,tagctx 1 1 [20:14] in fstab.. [20:19] well I mentioned this several times ... [20:19] but IIRC, you told me that it works ;) [20:20] the usual way for / which is not recommended as I mentioned too, is using the kernel parameter rootflags=tagctx [20:21] ohhh [20:21] again, I would strongly advise to use a _separate_ partition for vservers ... [20:22] had to use ISP's default partitioning on this server [20:22] as long as the vserver scripts write outside /vservers from within a vserver context, you'll ran into problems later ... [20:22] believe it not but most commodity dedicated server providers will not do custom OS installs [20:23] so what is the problem, just replace the exising system ... [20:23] lol [20:23] do you get a swap partition? [20:23] yes [20:24] well, disable swap, install a small rescue partition ... then repartitionate ... and voila ... [20:24] this can even be automated ;) [20:25] hello hello hello [20:25] question [20:25] hello hello, answer ;) [20:25] when I stop a vserver why does the /var/run/vserver/ not get removed sometimes [20:25] and then when I try to start [20:25] it says already running [20:25] until i rm that file. [20:25] :( [20:26] maybe because something fails in the vserver script ? [20:26] hmm it only happens sometimes.. [20:28] well, have a look at the script, see what can go wrong before the pid is removed ... [20:28] run some tests by hand ... watch the output closely ... [20:29] Bah that a differnt language to me. [20:29] if you see something fail, and the pid file remains ... you've found the error/bad command/whatever ... [20:32] okay, have to leave now, cu l8er ... [20:33] Nick change: Bertl -> Bertl_oO [20:33] matta (matta@69.10.150.254) left irc: Ping timeout: 480 seconds [21:07] matta (matta@69.10.150.254) joined #vserver. [21:07] ok [21:08] well dl0.05 seems to work on a system with separate partition [21:10] good boy [21:31] sup nesh [21:31] fucking stressfull past couple days... [21:34] eeek [21:46] JonB (~jon@kg246.kollegiegaarden.dk) joined #vserver. [21:56] holy cow [21:56] virtuozzo wants $2000 for a 2.0ghz CPU lic [21:58] Nesh: i'll sell you a vserver license for any cpu for just $999 [21:58] JonB lol [22:00] Nesh: hey, some people might actualy fall for it [22:04] i don't see how people make money off of virtuozzo [22:04] some people pay $2000 for it and sell for $20/mo [22:04] i pay nothing and barely make profit [22:06] matta: you sell vservers ? [22:07] yes [22:09] matta: how much ? [22:09] mee to i make nothing [22:09] Nesh: you sell too ? [22:09] Yeah [22:10] JonB: $15/mo for base [22:11] JonB: www.tektonic.net [22:11] SPAMMER! [22:11] Action: Nesh chuckles [22:12] matta: free trafic ? [22:12] JonB: free traffic? [22:13] matta: i'm looking at your website now [22:14] matta: you mentioned a price here, but not trafic ammount [22:16] JonB: 50GB/mo [22:17] matta: okay [22:18] how come you cant make money? dont you have enough customers? or? [22:18] hi [22:18] Hi [22:19] well [22:19] servers costs money [22:20] matta: yes, but... a customer can share that [22:20] let's say 25 vservers on a server that costs $300/mo [22:20] at $15/mo.. [22:20] you make $75/mo [22:20] not including other business costs [22:20] matta: why does the server cost $300 a month? [22:20] suchs as support, billing [22:20] JonB: for something that would support that [22:21] i go as cheap as possible and pay $200/mo for a p4-2.4ghz, 1gb ram, 80gb hdd [22:21] that includes 33 [22:21] IP's [22:21] so $175/mo profit off of that [22:21] matta: oh, you buy it hostet [22:21] but still, support for 25 customers can take time, then advertising, billing expenses, etc... [22:21] matta: true [22:22] matta: why not charge the customers more ? [22:24] competition [22:25] so many people are only charging $20/mo these days [22:25] and even using virtuozzo or uml [22:25] virtuozzo = expensive [22:25] uml = poor performance with 25 vservers on the hardware listed [22:26] matta: and vserver ? [22:26] vserver has low overhead [22:26] it's free and 25 vservers is ok for that hardware [22:26] matta: then run vservers [22:27] add a gb of ram and it could go to 30-35 [22:27] i do :) [22:27] i'm saying I don't understand how other people do it [22:27] me either [22:29] matta: strange [22:30] matta: those people charging so many people are only charging $20/mo these days [22:30] is that for a full server? or for a shared server ? [22:31] for a VDS [22:32] VDS/VPS/vserver, whatever you want to call it [22:33] matta: okay [22:34] it was a niche market before, however it's become more common thanks to virtuozzo/uml [22:34] yeah they killin me. [22:34] tho having a 100 vps on a 2.0gig system is nice. [22:35] dude, that B.S. [22:35] vserver is just as efficient as virtuozzo [22:35] not really [22:35] lacks things too. [22:35] 100 vps with 4GB of ram running simple services [22:36] not all running JVM's [22:36] yes, lacks some features too [22:36] yeah but there is no real memory limiting, disk limiting etc etc [22:36] freevps is more like virtuozzo feature wise [22:36] virtual network [22:36] right [22:36] there is mem and disk limiting [22:36] cept its unstable as hell [22:36] right [22:37] i don't know about you but I can't even afford a few hundred for setup fees for servers [22:37] well, isnt the problem usualy that there is no money in hosting ? [22:37] nonetheless a couple grand for software [22:38] JonB: depends, i've thought of this [22:38] it's all how you work. [22:38] matta: work ? [22:38] ie. if you charge a good price, have stable service, automate most common tasks, and don't provide advanced support you may make money [22:39] JonB I work full time and do it on the side.. [22:39] and do what matt just said [22:39] if you do provide good support, you need to charge a premium for it [22:39] i'll soon be implementing a new support scheme myself [22:39] matta, buy me out :) [22:40] where there is "base" support which is basically making sure server is up, includes reboots and shit [22:40] then a more advanced support for a monthly fee which includes more such as configuring applications, debugging CGI scripts, etc [22:40] and then full out managed services which includes full administration [22:41] because right now too many $15/mo customers send in upwards of 10 e-mails a day [22:42] matta: true [22:42] it's all in getting the right formula, then you can make money. [22:42] i hope so [22:44] not that i'm thinking about going into hosting [22:44] Nesh: so, what are you doing on your regular job? [22:44] matta: you do it full time ? [22:45] JonB: sorta, yes :) [22:45] matta: just sorta? [22:46] well, i was laid off [22:46] and I was doing a small biz when I was working [22:47] so i started trying to grow it with my free time, while looking for a job [22:47] i did not get a job, so i'm sorta stuck doing this fulltime [22:47] almost make enough to live off of, if I never had server or network troubles I would say i'd be profitable by now [22:47] unfortunately this is not a perfect world.. [22:56] full time yes [22:58] JonB (~jon@kg246.kollegiegaarden.dk) left irc: Ping timeout: 492 seconds [23:02] mhepp (~mhepp@r72s22p13.home.nbox.cz) joined #vserver. [23:05] the fun never ends [23:05] isp is having some sort of routing issue that makes half of my ip's not accessable [23:06] they can ping out, but not in [23:06] haha [23:42] loger joined #vserver. 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