[00:00] I do not see a reason to make context-init -> capability-setting -> flag-setting an atomic operation [00:00] trying to set INIT could just return -EINVAL. After all, who cares? :) [00:01] hmm, that's not so easy, what about the other flags? [00:01] either, we are doing everything at vc_new_s_ctx(), or at the separate flag-syscalls. But I would not mix both [00:01] @enrico ad capabilities, I totally agree, this isn't part of an init ... [00:02] but the 'one-time' flags you mentioned, I would consider part of the init ... [00:03] Look, you don't have that many bits in the flags yet. Just use a 32-bit flag, use both methods for compatibility with released versions, and return -EINVAL if they try to set something that isn't just fiddling a bit. IMHO of course ;-) [00:03] my suggestion would be to make a part of the 64bit flagword readonly ... exactly that one, which is set on new/create_context [00:04] *if* you ever need 64 bits of flags, then use a v2 command [00:04] okay, we can play the same with 32/16 bit ... [00:05] ok, one flag which is needed at init, would be exclusive (similarly to O_EXCL at open(2)) [00:07] but this is unrelated to the other flags... [00:08] is there a problem if we take the 32bit flags and copy them to the flagword, and just allow a subset to be changed? [00:10] Sounds good to me. [00:11] if the subset grows to the full flagword, or the other way around, if the inital flags shrink to zero, we just remove them ... [00:12] Heh, my collegue has a different story about lilo :-) [00:12] how do you handling the flags when an existing context will be entered? [00:13] they will be ignored ... [00:13] where do we add the O_EXCL flag? [00:14] hopefully we can soon split this into two commands, create context, and enter_context or something similar ... [00:14] the O_EXCL for the context means? [00:15] sounds complicated for userspace. you will have to check first if an context exists before using the syscall... [00:15] when set, vc_new_s_context(ctx,...) fails, when ctx is already alive [00:15] well it could be either that or, just fail if not existant, right? [00:16] this would be the enter-case; perhaps O_CREAT should be used also [00:16] so vc_create_context would create the environment, and fail if the context already exists ... [00:17] where vc_migrate would move a task into an existing context ... which would fail if it doesn't exist ... [00:18] O_EXCL -> ctx must not exist, implies O_CREAT [00:18] O_CREAT -> ctx will be created when not already existing [00:19] else -> vc_new_ns_context() fails when ctx does not exist (syscall should be renamed perhaps) [00:19] hmm, okay, you look at it this way ... [00:20] I'm not sure that this is where I want to go ... [00:22] Well, I'm going home. I'll leave you guys to decide on the syscall format. I'll finish split-2.4.23-rc2-vs1.1.5o1.3 tonight perhaps... [00:22] serving (~serving@213.186.191.143) joined #vserver. [00:22] okay, perfect thanks Sam ... [00:22] mugwump (~sv@81.3.107.58) left irc: Quit: geronimo! [00:22] hi serving! infowolfe was/is missing you ... [00:23] Bertl: this is proved open(2) behavior [00:23] sure, but it doesn't go well with moving the virtualization layer above the task space ... (which I plan to do later on ...) [00:33] hmm, did I miss something or what was the latest status about the bridge? [00:33] fleshcrawler (~fleshcraw@212.202.204.63) left irc: Ping timeout: 493 seconds [00:36] @matt are you still around? [00:49] fleshcrawler (~fleshcraw@port-212-202-204-63.reverse.qdsl-home.de) joined #vserver. [00:50] hmm hi fleshcrawler! [00:50] hi [00:50] how's the music? [00:50] great. just finnished cutting a video. [00:50] hey cool, will this be available on the net too? [00:51] well. I don't know. It has SVCD size. Maybe I'll render some small clips but I think the quality will be bad. [00:51] MPEG4 isn't so bad ... [00:52] I'll check this out. Just started messing arround with videos. [00:52] a good friend of mine does juggling videos ... [00:53] it's fun. I played arround with Pinnacle Studio 8 a bit. it's very easy and intuitive. [00:53] IIRC he uses a PowerMac with MacOSX ... [00:54] I've never put my hands on a Mac yet. [00:54] so what is your status on vservers? [00:55] running pretty fine! [00:55] I just want to accomplish some things and need info where to find the mistake. [00:55] okay, let's hear ... [00:55] fleshcrawler: bittorrent [00:55] Is it possible to block the other networks from the vserver [00:56] JonB: I know it. What's with it? [00:56] @fleshcrawler what are the 'other' networks? [00:56] fleshcrawler: put your file up for grabs with bittorrent [00:56] I mean if my local system has 10.0.0.1 and my vserver 192.168.0.3 I want be able to connect to the vserver from 10.0.0.1 but I want inside the vserver block the 10.0.0.0/24 network. [00:57] JonB: I'll do it. [00:57] fleshcrawler: okay [00:57] hmm, your wish seems contraditional connect from 10.x.x.x but block 10.x.x.x? [00:58] you mean, you want to block everything excep 10.0.0.1, right? [00:58] yes. with stateful blabla on the firewall this should work shouldn't it? [00:58] well, iptables should work on the host ... [00:59] it wouldn't be too bad if connections from 10.0.0.0/24 would be blocked, too. [00:59] Just want to shutoff the 192.168.0.0/16 network from my usual local net. [00:59] hrm, how do you intend to connect from 10.0.0.1 then? [00:59] no. I'd use the vserver commaand [00:59] -a [01:00] okay, well just setup a iptables filter rule, and you'll be fine then ... [01:00] okay. didn't work yet but then it's my shorewall config. [01:00] next question, okay? [01:00] okay ;) [01:01] :-D [01:01] I am trying to run a honeyd on the vserver. Has anyone some experience on this? [01:02] hrm, what do you want to catch there? well isn't that overkill anyway? [01:02] yes. it's crazy and sucidal [01:02] ahh, right the stuff for you, then ... [01:03] oh thank yo [01:03] u [01:03] well try it, and report your findings (if any) on the list then ... [01:04] I had some problems starting the daemon. I think it has problem connecting to the network devices (eth0:name) [01:04] maybe it requires RAW access to the network device ... [01:05] this can be allowed with CAP_NET_RAW, but _is_ considered a security issue ... [01:05] I enabled it [01:05] hmm [01:05] Nick change: riel -> unriel [01:05] I read about that [01:06] the point is, that honeyd listens for not available services or IPs. So you have to run a arp-daemon aswell or route the fake-networks through the vserver with honeyd. [01:06] well, given the apropriate capabilities, I see no problem there ... [01:07] is it useful/secure/a GoodThing(tm) to do? I guess not ... [01:08] you would probably be better off to run it on the host, side by side with the vservers ... [01:08] hmmm. I thought it might be more secure if it runs in a vbox. [01:09] well, what 'breach' scenarios could you think of ... [01:10] well. if I run a unsecure script on the localhost with the honeyd someone could exploit it. if I run it on the vserver and the vserver is shut off from the local network it wouldn't be too bad. [01:10] somebody hacks the honeyd, and gets access to a vserver which has all? required permissions to fake the network/etc ... [01:10] yes. but he would be shut off from the local net [01:11] not with the ability to send arbitrary packets ... [01:11] hmmm. but if I shut off any connection coming fron the interface eth0? [01:13] are the networks on separate interfaces? [01:13] yes [01:13] I think maybe the problem is with arp-packets. can a vserver send or listen to those? [01:14] with the raw capability yes ... [01:14] S_CAPS="CAP_NET_RAW" [01:15] yes ... [01:15] hmmm. i have it enabled (it's enabled by default on debian i think) [01:15] I hope not ... [01:16] this allows to sniff all network traffic from the interface ... [01:16] wait. i check it. [01:17] but somehow, the debian people don't want to work with us (yet) [01:17] bad [01:17] I just added a new server with the newvserver command. let's see what the config sais. [01:17] maybe if the userbase was larger, someone would bug them ... from time to time ... [01:17] why don't the debian people [01:21] yes. it's true. CAP_NET_RAW is enabled in the generated config for a new vserver. [01:23] is arp_open() a system routine? [01:27] no there isn't such thing like an arp syscall IIRC ... [01:27] well. my farpd on my vserver sais this function is not implemented. whatever that means. [01:28] use strace on it ... let's see what it does ... [01:29] we have to wait a moment. I'm doing an upgrade and can't download it for the vserver. [01:29] hmm, okay .. [01:30] JonB (~jon@129.142.112.33) left irc: Quit: Client exiting [01:35] you want the whole trace or just a tail? [01:35] could you put it somewhere on the web? [01:35] sure [01:40] http://worlddomination.homelinux.org/farpd_trace.txt [01:41] Bertl: does the newvserver script do any loggin? [01:41] *logging? [01:41] it seems to be broken on my RedHat 9... [01:42] rpm install, 0.26 [01:42] well I don't know what the newvserver script does, as this is the linuxconf stuff and I don't use it ... [01:42] what logging would you expect? [01:42] well [01:43] I was just hoping to track down why it might be broke [01:43] as I'm not seeing any output between the enter fields and the completed screen saying it took 1 second [01:44] @fleshcrawler which strace version is this? I assume < 4.5, right? [01:44] waaa! I think I got it! [01:44] no. I checked out the loaded libs. [01:44] I think it had todo with libcap. I installed a new version and it worked! [01:45] hmm, good to hear .. problem solved? [01:45] yes! honeyd works [01:45] sorry for bothering you! [01:46] me write down: strace good! strace good! [01:46] no big deal, just make sure that _not_ every vserver has CAP_RAW_NET NET_RAW set ... [01:46] yes. I'll create a vserver just for this purpose. [01:47] @WSU I'm not sure that there was anything beside this, do you have good reason to belive that there is more? [01:52] Well, if it's creating the new vserver, specifically either from the root server, or using the unify, it would either take much time to cp the appropriate files, or generate the tree unified [01:52] either way, I am getting what it creates seperate [01:52] such as proc [01:53] *just what [01:53] hmm, which tools/what version? [01:54] the vserver-tools 0.26 RPM [01:55] the vserver XXX build works right [01:55] just having troubs with the newserver [01:56] hmm, you did install the linuxconf package, right? [01:58] _fleshcrawler (~fleshcraw@port-212-202-204-63.reverse.qdsl-home.de) joined #vserver. [01:58] yes [01:59] and the vserver-admin package, otherwise you would not have newvserver I assume? [01:59] fleshcrawler (~fleshcraw@port-212-202-204-63.reverse.qdsl-home.de) left irc: Ping timeout: 480 seconds [02:04] re [02:05] okay, I need some sleep, cuall 2morrow ... [02:05] Nick change: Bertl -> Bertl_zZ [02:07] nite bert [02:07] <_fleshcrawler> hoodn8 [02:08] <_fleshcrawler> goodn8 i mean [02:26] kestrel (~athomas@o2rosock0a.optus.net.au) joined #vserver. [02:30] matta (~matta@68.81.235.145) left irc: Ping timeout: 493 seconds [02:42] <_fleshcrawler> okay. I'm off. bye [02:42] _fleshcrawler (~fleshcraw@port-212-202-204-63.reverse.qdsl-home.de) left irc: [04:21] matta (~matta@68.81.235.145) joined #vserver. [05:44] NeshHome (~dmistry@ool-4352413d.dyn.optonline.net) joined #vserver. [05:48] [1]James (~James@ip68-96-180-27.lv.lv.cox.net) joined #vserver. [05:55] Simon (~sgarner@apollo.quattro.net.nz) joined #vserver. 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[11:38] NeshHome (~dmistry@67.82.65.61) left irc: Ping timeout: 493 seconds [12:24] mhepp (~mhepp@r72s22p13.home.nbox.cz) joined #vserver. [12:27] mhepp (~mhepp@r72s22p13.home.nbox.cz) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [12:54] [1]James (HydraIRC@208.186.78.6) left irc: Quit: HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- The dawn of a new age [13:15] say (~say@212.86.243.154) joined #vserver. [13:16] Nick change: ck -> MedivhWrk [13:30] NeshHome (~dmistry@ool-4352413d.dyn.optonline.net) joined #vserver. [13:32] Crissi (~Crissi--@goofy.mfsconsulting.de) joined #vserver. [13:32] hi [13:33] someone alive? [13:33] i need some help to get vserver compiled... [13:33] latest kernel 2.4.22 [13:34] latest vserver patch 1.1.5 [13:34] i tried the 1.0.0 too [13:34] but if i compile.. [13:34] In file included from /usr/include/linux/ext2_fs_sb.h:19, [13:34] from /usr/include/linux/ext2_fs.h:20, [13:34] from src/ext2fs.h:25, [13:34] from src/vutil.cc:40: [13:34] /usr/include/linux/blockgroup_lock.h: In function `void bgl_lock_init(blockgroup_lock*)': [13:34] /usr/include/linux/blockgroup_lock.h:48: error: `spin_lock_init' undeclared (first use this function) [13:34] /usr/include/linux/blockgroup_lock.h:48: error: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once for each function it appears in.) [13:34] In file included from /usr/include/linux/ext2_fs_sb.h:20, [13:34] from /usr/include/linux/ext2_fs.h:20, [13:34] from src/ext2fs.h:25, [13:34] from src/vutil.cc:40: [13:34] /usr/include/linux/percpu_counter.h: In function `void percpu_counter_mod(percpu_counter*, long int)': [13:34] /usr/include/linux/percpu_counter.h:75: error: `preempt_disable' undeclared (first use this function) [13:34] /usr/include/linux/percpu_counter.h:77: error: `preempt_enable' undeclared (first use this function) [13:34] make[1]: *** [src/vutil.o] Error 1 [13:34] make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/util-vserver-0.25 [13:36] and compile of vserver fails too: [13:36] gcc -funsigned-char -Wall -g -O -DVERSION=\"0.26\" rebootmgr.cc -o rebootmgr \ [13:36] -lstdc++ [13:36] gcc -static -funsigned-char -Wall -g -O -DVERSION=\"0.26\" vreboot.cc -o vreboot [13:36] /tmp/ccV6Thmv.o(.eh_frame+0x11): In function `vreboot_connect': [13:36] /usr/src/vserver-0.26/vreboot.cc:24: undefined reference to `__gxx_personality_v0' [13:36] collect2: ld returned 1 exit status [13:36] make: *** [vreboot] Error 1 [13:36] linux:/usr/src/vserver-0.26 [13:43] re [13:45] any ideas? [13:49] Crissi: try to install the e2fsprogs [13:50] mom [13:54] installed. but fails. [13:54] oh, this vserver, but not util-vserver... this does not help there... [13:54] In file included from /usr/include/linux/ext2_fs_sb.h:19, [13:54] from /usr/include/linux/ext2_fs.h:20, [13:54] from src/ext2fs.h:25, [13:54] from src/vutil.cc:40: [13:54] /usr/include/linux/blockgroup_lock.h: In function `void bgl_lock_init(blockgroup_lock*)': [13:54] /usr/include/linux/blockgroup_lock.h:48: error: `spin_lock_init' undeclared (first use this function) [13:54] /usr/include/linux/blockgroup_lock.h:48: error: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once for each function it appears in.) [13:54] In file included from /usr/include/linux/ext2_fs_sb.h:20, [13:55] from /usr/include/linux/ext2_fs.h:20, [13:55] from src/ext2fs.h:25, [13:55] from src/vutil.cc:40: [13:55] /usr/include/linux/percpu_counter.h: In function `void percpu_counter_mod(percpu_counter*, long int)': [13:55] /usr/include/linux/percpu_counter.h:75: error: `preempt_disable' undeclared (first use this function) [13:55] /usr/include/linux/percpu_counter.h:77: error: `preempt_enable' undeclared (first use this function) [13:55] make[1]: *** [src/vutil.o] Error 1 [13:55] this is util-vserver [13:55] but vserver fails too: [13:55] In file included from /usr/include/linux/ext2_fs_sb.h:19, [13:55] from /usr/include/linux/ext2_fs.h:20, [13:55] from vutil.cc:12: [13:55] /usr/include/linux/blockgroup_lock.h: In function `void [13:55] bgl_lock_init(blockgroup_lock*)': [13:55] /usr/include/linux/blockgroup_lock.h:48: error: `spin_lock_init' undeclared [13:55] (first use this function) [13:55] /usr/include/linux/blockgroup_lock.h:48: error: (Each undeclared identifier is [13:55] reported only once for each function it appears in.) [13:55] In file included from /usr/include/linux/ext2_fs_sb.h:20, [13:55] from /usr/include/linux/ext2_fs.h:20, [13:55] from vutil.cc:12: [13:55] /usr/include/linux/percpu_counter.h: In function `void [13:55] percpu_counter_mod(percpu_counter*, long int)': [13:55] /usr/include/linux/percpu_counter.h:75: error: `preempt_disable' undeclared [13:55] (first use this function) [13:55] /usr/include/linux/percpu_counter.h:77: error: `preempt_enable' undeclared [13:55] (first use this function) [13:55] make: *** [vutil.o] Error 1 [13:55] linux:/usr/src/vserver-0.26 [13:56] Crissi: you need /usr/include/ext2fs/ext2fs.h [13:56] (and call './config.status --recheck' before recompiling) [13:56] kestrel_ (~athomas@192.65.90.115) joined #vserver. [13:57] probably the e2fsprogs-devel package will help in case you run on redhat/fedora [13:59] yes i installed it. vserver seems to compile [13:59] whats abouzt util-vserver? [13:59] i need it too? [13:59] or only vserver [14:00] yeah you need util-vserver too [14:00] [11:57:15] (and call './config.status --recheck' before recompiling) [14:00] do that for util-vserver before compiling again [14:00] and see if it works then [14:00] serving (~serving@213.186.191.143) left irc: Ping timeout: 483 seconds [14:01] ups [14:01] util-vserver i compiled [14:02] the vserver still fails.. [14:02] you mean the kernel ;) [14:02] maybe same problem [14:02] kernel is patched [14:02] ohh [14:02] you're trying to build vserver-0.26 and util-vserver? [14:03] util-vserver compiles fine [14:03] kernel too [14:03] then you're fine ;) [14:03] but vserver not [14:04] you can choose between vserver and util-vserver, you don't need both ... thought you were speaking about kernel patch, sorry [14:04] actually util-vserver is required for the most current devel versions of the kernel patch, iirc [14:04] only one is enough? [14:04] so i dont need vserver-0.26? [14:04] yep, kernel patch + util-vserver and you're absolutely fine [14:04] nope you don't ;) [14:05] good [14:05] (brb in 5 mins) [14:32] Simon (~sgarner@apollo.quattro.net.nz) left irc: Quit: so long, and thanks for all the fish [15:50] Nick change: Bertl_zZ -> Bertl [15:51] hi folks! [15:54] serving (~serving@213.186.190.116) joined #vserver. [15:59] hi serving! [16:10] where i get teh files which should be in /vservers/ [16:10] i dont know what i should copy there [16:11] hi crissi! [16:11] you have some options there ... [16:11] either you copy an exisiting installation of a real server, and adapt it to run as vserver ... [16:12] normal installation??? [16:12] or you do a vserver build ... (which knows some options, and enrico knows more ;) [16:12] ah [16:12] Bertl: these options are available with alpha tools only [16:12] or you could simply clone/copy an existing vserver ... [16:13] @enrico ah okay ... [16:13] build works.. [16:13] there is also the newvserver tool ... [16:13] hey.. [16:13] does this work with util-vserver, enrico? [16:14] I have not touched it; when it works with 'vserver', it should work with 'util-vserver' also. But it is untested... [16:15] newvserver not found [16:15] you will need util-vserver-linuxconf [16:15] or call ./configure with '--enable-linuxconf' [16:15] ah [16:15] but i dont have linuxconf [16:16] then you do not want 'newvserver'... [16:17] @crissi hmm, is crissi a male or female name/nick? [16:17] im a male [16:17] im male [16:17] like cristian ... [16:18] without the 'h' ... [16:18] or christo(ph|f) ... [16:19] you got it! [16:33] re [16:34] hi maja! [16:35] hi bertl [16:44] BobR (~georg@oglgogl.BMTP.akh-wien.ac.at) joined #vserver. [16:44] hi bob! what a surprise! [16:45] Action: BobR Hi! [16:45] you finally made your peace with BitchX or switched over to irssi? [16:46] Action: BobR did so! [16:46] okay /me is when you do something ... (sorry guys, he's new to irc ;) [16:46] Action: BobR just has to remember old (lost) communication skills! ;) [16:46] Crissi (~Crissi--@goofy.mfsconsulting.de) left irc: Quit: KVIrc 3.0.0-beta3 "CVS" [16:46] Action: Bertl is ashamed ... [16:46] why? [16:47] because you didn't use /m ;) [16:47] GRRR ;) [16:48] How are U? [16:48] well, better ... fever seems gone, I can breath again ... [16:49] nice 2 hear! [17:06] BobR (~georg@oglgogl.BMTP.akh-wien.ac.at) left irc: Quit: leaving [17:08] BobR (~georg@oglgogl.BMTP.akh-wien.ac.at) joined #vserver. [17:08] oops I forgot a semicolon, right ;) [17:09] where? [17:09] in BobR's irssi config ;) [17:12] not in the vserver code, of course ;) [17:16] hehe [17:16] bertl: do you know if it is possible to convert an existnig fs to software raid? [17:16] or do i have to reformat this partition/device [17:17] hmm, mirror could be possible, but I would not do it ;) [17:17] mhm.. /me got an idea :) [17:18] i buy another drive, set it up as a software raid (mirror, with one disk only) [17:18] copy the stuff [17:18] and add the first harddisk to the raid after reformatting [17:18] possible? [17:18] yes, this works (worked) perfectly for me ... [17:19] you can even change/adapt the size ... I would suggest to use grub as bootloader ... [17:20] the trick is to setup a mirror raid, with one faulty disk (the old one) [17:21] then copy the existing partition to the raid, and afterwards reconstruct the mirror ... [17:26] okay, have to leave now .. cu l8er ... [17:26] Nick change: Bertl -> Bertl_oO [17:27] kestrel_ (~athomas@192.65.90.115) left irc: Quit: Hey! Where'd my controlling terminal go? [17:29] laters [17:29] and thnx [17:32] Nick change: unriel -> riel [19:07] pilawa (~pilawa@rzpilawa.rz.tu-bs.de) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [19:09] mhm, somehow i keep getting "Can't set the ipv4 root (Bad address)" [19:10] does the host system need to have an interface with the particular ip address? [19:13] ah, wrong kernel ;) [19:13] damn... [19:16] wohoo.. now my server won't boot *g* [19:16] damn... so i need to wait until im at home :> [19:43] mcp (~hightower@wolk-project.de) left irc: Ping timeout: 480 seconds [19:55] Nick change: Bertl_oO -> Bertl [19:55] hi all! [20:21] mcp (~hightower@81.17.110.148) joined #vserver. [20:21] AGoe (~agoeres@D9dd1.d.pppool.de) joined #vserver. [20:21] hello everybody .. [20:22] hi Alexander! [20:22] herbert.. just one question to your cqhrem-tool [20:22] yup? [20:22] what is its syntax.. how to use it? [20:24] could it be something like "cqhrem -x number"? [20:24] there is an example how to use it .. let me find the url .. [20:25] http://vserver.13thfloor.at/Linux2.6/index.php?page=Per+Context+Quota [20:25] same syntax as for cqhadd is for cqhrem ... [20:25] BobR (~georg@oglgogl.BMTP.akh-wien.ac.at) left irc: Quit: leaving [20:26] there should also be a short help if called with -h IIRC ... [20:27] herbert.. only "print this help message" and "verbose output"..:-) [20:28] but i just wanted to be on the sure siede.. if these two have the same syntax i got it.. [20:29] actually it is a multicall binary ... only the quotactl is different ... [21:19] great.. it's working.. working progs are nice..:-) bye [21:19] AGoe (~agoeres@D9dd1.d.pppool.de) left irc: Quit: de cetero censeo aliquem necesse dormire [22:16] AGoe (~agoeres@D9dd1.d.pppool.de) joined #vserver. [22:18] AGoe (~agoeres@D9dd1.d.pppool.de) left irc: Client Quit [22:43] Topic changed on #vserver by ChanServ!services@services.oftc.net: http://linux-vserver.org/ || latest stable 1.00, devel 1.1.5