[00:00] JonB (~jonbendts@vision2.kollegiegaarden.dk) joined #vserver. [00:00] hi Jon! [00:02] Bertl: as you told me i migrated to LVM [00:03] looks cute but even the regular quota does not work on LVM devices :< [00:03] (host quota) [00:03] well, then you did something terribly wrong ;) [00:03] did you patch q0.12 or not? [00:04] i did. [00:04] but that's not the point [00:05] well, that is! [00:05] /dev/mapper/vserver_vol-tooltime on /vservers/tooltime type ext3 (rw) [00:05] app-103:/vservers# quotaon /vservers/tooltime [00:05] quotaon: Mountpoint (or device) /vservers/tooltime not found. [00:05] its in the host! [00:05] yes, you have to add a quotahash on the host too, if you use context quota patches [00:06] nathan_ (~nathan@209-6-130-26.c3-0.sbo-ubr1.sbo-ubr.ma.cable.rcn.com) got netsplit. [00:06] even if i only have the kernel patched? [00:06] and do not use context quota? [00:06] hey bertl [00:06] especially when you have the kernel patched ;) [00:06] [00:07] but you do not need the q0.12 patch to have quota on a lvm partition ... if each vserver is on a separate one ... [00:08] i want to use both ;) [00:09] is there any howto avialable for cq-tools? :) [00:09] got it [00:09] well, there is the howto for the 2.6 testcases, and it has a help?! [00:10] the help might be broken tough ...didn't update it last time ... [00:16] app-103:/# /home/rmoriz/install/cq-tools-0.06/cqhadd -x 1 -v /dev/sda6 [00:16] adding quota hash for /dev/sda6 ... failed: Function not implemented [00:17] nathan_ (~nathan@209-6-130-26.c3-0.sbo-ubr1.sbo-ubr.ma.cable.rcn.com) got lost in the net-split. [00:17] kernel version? [00:19] 2.4.24 [00:19] 2.4.24+vs1.22? [00:19] it's a 3ware raid device mapped as /dev/sda [00:22] did you mount it with the tagctx/tagxid option? 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[18:50] virtuoso (~shisha@ip114-115.adsl.wplus.ru) left irc: Read error: Connection reset by peer [19:48] nathan_ (~nathan@209-6-130-26.c3-0.sbo-ubr1.sbo-ubr.ma.cable.rcn.com) joined #vserver. [19:51] DazeDark (~chris@82-32-130-79.cable.ubr05.hawk.blueyonder.co.uk) left irc: Quit: ..(cyp): [BX] iTs bEttEr tO bUrN oUt tHaN tO fAdE aWaY [20:09] nathan_ (~nathan@209-6-130-26.c3-0.sbo-ubr1.sbo-ubr.ma.cable.rcn.com) left irc: Ping timeout: 480 seconds [20:50] vat (vat@pD9E37515.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined #vserver. [20:50] huhu. [20:50] Nick change: Bertl_zZ -> Bertl [20:50] huhu! [20:50] herb :) [20:51] hoohoo [20:51] hmm.. what kinda grsec restrictions are hazardous on a vserver... somehow ones that were turned on.. are now off :( [20:51] hm. got a little problem with bind9 and ctx-17c :/. [20:52] vat did you compile it with --disable-linux-caps ? [20:52] johnny, it's running.. not that problem. [20:52] ah ok [20:52] johnny: maybe contacting grepmaster would be a good idea ... [20:52] but maybe it got a problem with pthreads. [20:52] does he ever show up in here Bertl? [20:52] or has an IM [20:53] when loadavg get's higher.. it's just not responding, however. crazy. [20:53] vat: (not directly related) maybe upgrading to a version 'younger' than a year would be a good thing? [20:53] Bertl, hm. that could be. [20:54] hm. it's also caching 800MB. weird stuff. [20:54] you could also try the development version on ck1, with preemtion and O(1) scheduler ... [20:54] vat: caching is normal, it's the way linux handles memory ... it's basically a 'smart' way ;) [20:55] Bertl, yep. but it's a bit sucking ;). [20:55] how so? [20:55] customers just wondering of the free mem :> [20:55] did you read click's last information of processing /dev/urandom 1000 times? ;-) [20:56] well, yes, actually it was random IIRC, and of course, something stressing the kernel, without O(1) scheduler and TBF will slow it down ... [20:57] it's annoying ;). [21:07] hmm, maybe you can explain 'what' exactly is annoying to you?! [21:20] hmm.. i still don't get these v_scripts [21:20] you mean the v_* sysv wrappers? [21:20] Sirius_Black (kollege@p508EDE72.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #vserver. [21:21] reee [21:21] ^^ [21:21] hi! ;) [21:22] weiss jemand wo ich aktuelle grsec patches herbekomm ? [21:22] okay, your issue is: changing the max number of files for a context or on the host, right? [21:22] yey [21:22] yes^^ [21:23] grsec patches are available on patchmasters page (see link on linux-vserver.org) [21:23] grepmaster [21:23] yup grepmaster, sorry ... [21:25] hmm, okay Sirius, so what does ULIMIT="-HS -n 2048" do for you? [21:26] Bertl: nothing [21:26] *g* [21:26] hmm, does it report an error on vserver startup (this has to go into the config file of course) [21:29] mhh [21:29] mom [21:38] Bertl, the loadavg of 117 is annoying to me ;). [21:39] Shade|OFFLINE (shade@cpe109.bb101.cablesurf.de) joined #vserver. [21:39] hi everybody [21:39] Nick change: Shade|OFFLINE -> Shade [21:39] Nick change: Shade -> |Shade [21:40] vat: and that is with O(1) and TBF on ck1? [21:40] hi |Shade ! [21:40] Bertl, not using ck1. [21:40] Bertl, but would be an idea. [21:41] <|Shade> i would like to ask about an error in util-vserver-0.27 [21:41] <|Shade> to enrico [21:41] hmm, well he's not there atm, but ask ... [21:41] <|Shade> ok [21:42] <|Shade> on the mailinglist i have a detailed error msg [21:42] <|Shade> but one sec [21:42] hiya [21:42] hi meebey! [21:42] Bertl: I still love ya ;) [21:42] (for your work of course) [21:42] uhoh, for a moment I was confused 8-) [21:43] lol [21:43] Bertl: naaah I am not bi [21:43] <|Shade> in make process of util-vserver-0.27 this error is happend: [21:43] have to upgrade though my servers [21:43] <|Shade> src/showattr.c: In function `getext2flags': [21:43] <|Shade> src/showattr.c:52: `EXT2_IOC_GETFLAGS' undeclared (first use in this [21:43] <|Shade> function) [21:43] <|Shade> ... [21:44] <|Shade> it's more... but i won't flood in here ;) [21:44] <|Shade> the end lines are linke this [21:44] <|Shade> make[1]: *** [src/showattr.o] Error 1 [21:44] <|Shade> make[1]: Leaving directory `/install/util-vserver-0.27' [21:44] <|Shade> make: *** [all] Error 2 [21:44] <|Shade> the make process stops... [21:44] well, probably broken header files ... [21:44] <|Shade> hmmm [21:44] <|Shade> k [21:44] grep EXT2_IOC_GETFLAGS /usr/include/linux/ext2* [21:44] /usr/include/linux/ext2_fs.h:#defineEXT2_IOC_GETFLAGS_IOR('f', 1, long) [21:44] Bertl: btw spelling mistake on linux-vserver.org [21:45] Bertl: "Imporved Security!" should be "Improved Security!" [21:45] that is not spelling, that is my personla style ;) [21:45] hehehe [21:45] well my left hand is sometimes competing with my right .. and sometimes it wins ... [21:45] <|Shade> löl [21:46] Bertl: public wiki, cool [21:46] but thanks to the redundancy of written language(s), you nevertheless where able to figure out the sense, right? [21:47] Bertl: you mean me? [21:47] |Shade: what does the grep report on your system? [21:48] <|Shade> one second [21:48] meebey: I always address the person I'm writing to, if not, the last one writing on the channel is meant ;) (means yeah, I did ;) [21:49] <|Shade> /usr/include/linux/ext2_fs.h:#define EXT2_IOC_GETFLAGS _IOR('f', 1, long) [21:50] so that looks fine to me, why do the tools complain?! [21:50] Bertl: then you may want to revert my change :-P [21:51] <|Shade> ok i send you the full error from make [21:52] please do a ./configure (in the source dir) and add that output ... [21:52] (or make it available somewhere on the web) [21:53] <|Shade> shall I send the output now? [21:53] <|Shade> a ./configure? [21:53] <|Shade> sure? [21:53] hmm, you mean via DCC, well if you like ... [21:53] <|Shade> no not via dcc [21:53] <|Shade> paste it in here [21:54] hmm, well guess that's not such a good idea ... [21:54] <|Shade> it's about 9 lines [21:54] <|Shade> ok i think too ;) [21:54] <|Shade> the full error msg is send to the mailinglist [21:54] huh? the ./configure output should be about 30 lines ... [21:54] <|Shade> no no sry not the ./configure output [21:55] <|Shade> the output from make error [21:55] hmm, okay, either DCC or ml or if possible web [21:55] <|Shade> yes web is np [21:56] hey meebey, you are b101062.adsl.hansenet.de? you can change that in the Preferences section of the wiki ;) [21:56] Bertl: I will :) [21:57] the comment is nice ... [21:57] <|Shade> http://www.wwip.de/make_error_vserver-0.27.txt [21:57] Bertl: lol [21:57] JonB (~jonbendts@129.142.112.33.ip.tele2adsl.dk) joined #vserver. [21:57] Bertl: What happened to you site? [21:57] |Shade: okay, and the ./configure output? [21:58] seems as tho maybe a css is missing or something [21:58] <|Shade> sec [21:58] WSU: hmm, it seems to work for me?! where do you see issues? [21:59] css is ok: http://www.linux-vserver.org/index.php?action=style [21:59] WSU, meebey: are we talking about 13thfloor.at or linux-vserver.org? [21:59] tge 13thfloor.at [21:59] ups, I was talking about linux-vserver.org [21:59] s/tge/the [22:00] hey meebey, lOOk another creative character ... [22:00] http://www.13thfloor.at/welcome/?entrance=a [22:00] lol the source [22:00] everything is all white, not that pretty skin you had before [22:00] <|Shade> http://www.wwip.de/output_configure_util-vserver-0.27.txt [22:01] WSU: oh that stuff, I know that :) [22:01] hmm, interesting, seems to work for me here?! [22:01] WSU: I forgot those what it was though [22:01] I think a temporarly "bug" [22:02] s/those/though/ [22:02] WSU: hmm, try reloading the page, does it remain white? [22:02] <|Shade> well.... the list of "bugs or user errors ;)" is long... [22:02] Bertl: revisiting the site fixed it for me :) [22:02] <|Shade> anyone ideas to an error of FIX01 from Jacks vserver tools? [22:03] <|Shade> in stop process of any vserver i have this msg [22:03] <|Shade> -> Can't set the new security context [22:03] <|Shade> -> : Invalid argument [22:04] <|Shade> and the vserver doesn't stop [22:04] meebey: well I had the feeling that the update only if newer and send compressed contents I use, sometimes confuse inferior browsers, what browser do you use, what does WSU use? [22:04] <|Shade> without fix01 all works great [22:04] Action: WSU closes/restarts Mozilla 1.5, no change [22:04] Bertl: I use galeon but that problem only happened once to me [22:04] Bertl: first I thought its some old outdated site :) [22:05] |Shade: well, I won't state that without fix01 everything works great, as it 'just' ignores static context ids (those set with S_CONTEXT=xxx) [22:05] <|Shade> ok but the dynamic context work?! [22:06] which will bring any user of context tagging (per context disk limits and quotas) straight into vserver hell! [22:06] <|Shade> because i have no problems with vserver-0.29 without the fix [22:06] <|Shade> löl ok :) [22:06] but it might be that there is some 'other' issue introduced by that fix ... [22:06] do you want to investigate? [22:07] ad util-vserver 0.27, have you read the ./config output? [22:07] <|Shade> Bertl: Yes [22:07] <|Shade> and again: yes ;) [22:07] <|Shade> have u read the output? [22:07] well okay, I would send an email to enrico ... [22:07] <|Shade> http://www.wwip.de/output_configure_util-vserver-0.27.txt [22:08] <|Shade> k thanks [22:08] you can try with 0.26 but I guess it will fail too ... [22:08] <|Shade> hmm at this time we are happy with vserver-0.29 without the fix01 [22:08] (something is fishy with those headers or the required includes) [22:09] okay, then let's investigate ... [22:09] <|Shade> yes [22:09] I'll need you to do some tests with 0.29 patched and unpatched ... [22:09] <|Shade> ok np [22:09] <|Shade> a have a development server here [22:10] great ... [22:10] okay first let's have a look at the 'working' 0.29 unpatched ... [22:10] <|Shade> currently vserver-0.29 unpatched runs [22:10] <|Shade> k [22:11] good, stop a test server ... and then do a start/stop cycle of that server (vserver start, then vserver stop) and save this output, or put it on the web ... [22:11] <|Shade> ok one sec [22:13] <|Shade> http://www.wwip.de/vserver/outputs/start_stop_output.txt [22:14] <|Shade> works "great" [22:15] hmmm ... well 'great' is not the attribute I would use :( [22:16] <|Shade> Still not... [22:16] but it would be cool to have a start/stop cycle ;) [22:16] not a stop/start ;) [22:16] <|Shade> but whait when i try this with vserver-0.29 patched [22:17] <|Shade> hmmm [22:18] problem gone? [22:18] <|Shade> can you describe this more precisely? [22:18] <|Shade> what does "cycle" mean? [22:18] <|Shade> a start and stop of any v, or not? [22:18] starting a vserver, then stoping the same vserver ... [22:18] <|Shade> jea ok this is the output from this... [22:19] the output you uploaded was stopping a vserver, then starting it again ... [22:19] <|Shade> oh sry [22:19] <|Shade> sry [22:19] <|Shade> yes i see sry ;) [22:19] <|Shade> one mom [22:19] np [22:20] <|Shade> ok it's up [22:20] <|Shade> http://www.wwip.de/vserver/outputs/start_stop_output.txt [22:22] okay could you start it again, and check the contents of /var/run/vservers/VM1.ctx (or where this is located on debian?) [22:22] <|Shade> yes sec [22:23] <|Shade> S_CONTEXT=49158 [22:23] <|Shade> S_PROFILE= [22:23] <|Shade> thats all [22:24] well, add that to the start_stop_output.txt, and title it unpatched 0.29 ... [22:24] now we test the patched tools, and do the folowing sequence: [22:25] vserver VM1 start, cat /var/run/vservers/VM1.ctx, vserver VM1 stop [22:25] <|Shade> ok this will take a little time... [22:25] <|Shade> sec [22:26] it would be a good idea, to archive the vserver tool specific files in a tar, both unpatched an patched, this would allow to switch very fast between them ... [22:27] <|Shade> yes thats right but we have found this error today... [22:27] <|Shade> but thanks for this "hint" ;) [22:29] well, and we are going to fix it today ... 8-) [22:29] <|Shade> :) [22:30] <|Shade> argl when do I get my new development server... this server is too slow... *gähn* [22:30] <|Shade> ok finish [22:31] <|Shade> and we have the first error ;) [22:31] <|Shade> Bertl [22:31] <|Shade> i can't stop any v with the patched version [22:31] well, let me see the 'new' log ... [22:31] <|Shade> this is my problem [22:31] and the output of the cat after the start ;) [22:32] <|Shade> ok let me short install a new v... because VM1 i can't stop [22:32] <|Shade> can't = cannot [22:36] <|Shade> ok i upload [22:36] hmm, as? [22:37] <|Shade> http://www.wwip.de/vserver/outputs/start_stop_output_with_patch.txt [22:38] <|Shade> oh stop [22:38] <|Shade> VM2.ctx not VM1.ctx one second [22:39] <|Shade> now [22:39] vat (vat@pD9E37515.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) left irc: Quit: Leaving [22:39] <|Shade> all right [22:39] <|Shade> refresh the file [22:40] hmm, okay can you try the following: [22:40] chcontext --ctx 49159 true [22:40] I think I had the same problem, and it was because of very old tools [22:40] <|Shade> very old tools? [22:40] with that : invalid argument [22:40] <|Shade> this are the newest *g [22:40] hehe :) [22:40] hmm, actually looks like a vserver bug ... let me check ... [22:41] <|Shade> even with patch ;) [22:41] <|Shade> ok np Bertl [22:41] oh no, it was with 2.6 kernel :) [22:41] |Shade: which kerne? [22:41] <|Shade> hehe [22:41] <|Shade> 2.4.24 [22:41] ok :) [22:42] <|Shade> and vs-1.23 [22:42] <|Shade> because the util-vserver 0.27 don't work... [22:42] <|Shade> -don't +won't ;) [22:42] <|Shade> sorry for my bad bad english [22:43] you will be execused for it ;) [22:44] <|Shade> thanks a lot ;) [22:44] <|Shade> but this still becomes... i hope *g [22:46] funny that bug seems to be there since 1.20 ... [22:47] <|Shade> well...funny is the wrong word [22:48] funny that I didn't fix it ... because it's fixed in the development branch ... [22:49] <|Shade> ok and in the meantime i use the "old" tools [22:50] hmm, well, strange thing, have to investigate ... [22:50] <|Shade> knows anyone when this bugfix is available in stable releases? [22:50] <|Shade> k [22:50] <|Shade> forgett my last question ;) [22:50] <|Shade> -t [23:00] bad bug? [23:01] <|Shade> hmm i think so [23:01] hmm, no actually it's only in the tools ... [23:01] <|Shade> k [23:01] I was confused by your last test, which wasn't that accurate ... [23:01] could you try the following ... [23:01] chcontext sleep 1000 & [23:01] this output a number >= 49152 ... [23:01] then try [23:02] chcontext --ctx true [23:02] <|Shade> k [23:02] <|Shade> output again on web? [23:03] well only the last results are of interest, max 3 line s... [23:03] <|Shade> VM-DEV01:/# chcontext --ctx 49160 true [23:03] <|Shade> New security context is 49160 [23:03] <|Shade> thats all [23:03] yeah, so this works as expected, no kernel bug ;) [23:03] <|Shade> ok [23:03] have to install perl, the new tools seem to require it ... will take a little ... [23:04] <|Shade> hmm perl is currently installed and working [23:04] <|Shade> oh ok [23:04] <|Shade> *g [23:04] yeah on your system ;) [23:04] <|Shade> yea ;) [23:07] JonB (~jonbendts@129.142.112.33.ip.tele2adsl.dk) left #vserver. [23:07] WSU: hmm did a reload solve your issues? [23:08] nope [23:08] Mozilla 1.5 [23:08] and it's not a cache/cookie issue either, cleared them [23:08] no proxies [23:09] could you check the info about stylesheets? [23:09] I must have missed it [23:09] does it happen on all pages, including the start page? [23:10] http://www.13thfloor.at/ [23:10] that start page is fine [23:10] all pages after "enter" [23:10] <|Shade> have what error? [23:10] No error, just no coloring/skin [23:10] <|Shade> on my mac system i have too no css [23:10] White background, default fonts [23:11] It worked before the vs1.23 update [23:11] <|Shade> uhm [23:11] <|Shade> hmmm on my window* system all works fine [23:11] hmm, okay does http://www.13thfloor.at/styles/13thfloor_gray.css return a stylesheet for you? [23:12] yes [23:12] <|Shade> WSU can u send me a screenshot? [23:12] hmm, well that is the same stylesheet referenced for entrance=a . please verify that ... [23:13] <|Shade> i think it's the same error on my mac [23:14] hmm, well, what might be the cause? [23:14] ensc (~ircensc@ultra.csn.tu-chemnitz.de) joined #vserver. [23:14] <|Shade> good question [23:15] hello [23:15] Hi enrico ... [23:15] <|Shade> hi ensc [23:15] <|Shade> or enrico ;) [23:15] hmm.. wonder if i should proceed with my reboot... [23:15] |Shade: that is the famous guy you want to ask ... [23:15] <|Shade> yes right ;) [23:16] <|Shade> thx [23:16] <|Shade> ensc [23:16] <|Shade> i have a problem with your util-vserver-0.27 [23:16] <|Shade> :/ [23:16] does not matter; irsii highlights both strings... [23:16] |Shade: which one? [23:17] <|Shade> ensc one sec [23:17] <|Shade> http://www.wwip.de/vserver/outputs/make_error_vserver-0.27.txt [23:17] <|Shade> in make [23:17] <|Shade> after installing linuxconf [23:18] <|Shade> and before i don't know [23:18] WSU: try to reload the page again ... [23:18] <|Shade> WSU: Same error with Firebird? [23:19] |Shade: some lines before might be interesting, but I guess that you do not have e2fsprogs-devel and/or valid kernel headers installed [23:19] nothing on reload [23:19] ensc: http://www.wwip.de/output_configure_util-vserver-0.27.txt [23:19] <|Shade> ok let me test this ensc [23:20] WSU nop page or what? [23:20] <|Shade> Bertl: Adress has chanced [23:20] <|Shade> sec [23:20] no change [23:20] I get the pages [23:20] gimme a tw secs [23:20] I will get a screen shot [23:20] <|Shade> http://www.wwip.de/vserver/outputs/output_configure_util-vserver-0.27.txt [23:20] WSU: which version of mozilla? [23:20] <|Shade> 1.5 Bertl,i thinks [23:20] <|Shade> -s [23:20] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=112448 [23:21] <|Shade> WSU closes/restarts Mozilla 1.5, no change [23:21] yes, Mozilla 1.5 [23:21] Mozilla 1.0.1 [23:21] Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i586; en-US; rv:1.0.1) Gecko/20020828 [23:21] works great here ... [23:21] <|Shade> ensc and what does it mean? [23:22] WSU: so does galeon 1.2.5 and 1.3.x .... [23:22] <|Shade> the error is in the headers? [23:22] WSU: but I guess we can do some testing what your client requests ... I'll enable logging ... [23:23] |Shade: your distribution uses broken headers; my announcement contains a quick hack (when you have good kernel headers) [23:23] Konqueror 3.1.4 works [23:23] else, I suggest to fix e2fsprogs headesr manually as stated in the bugreport [23:23] WSU: lets check it anyway, maybe we can 'add' a waorkaround on my side ... [23:24] <|Shade> uhm, this must be fixed by our linux gurus ;) i have not the expirience to do that [23:24] <|Shade> but many thanks enrico [23:24] |Shade: please write bugreport for your distribution so that this gets fixed... [23:25] <|Shade> ok no problem [23:25] WSU could you try again with mozilla 1.5? [23:27] yeah [23:28] Working now it seems [23:28] looks goo [23:28] d [23:29] hmm, it seems your browser doesn't handle compressed pages, well ... [23:29] |Shade: you said your mac has similar issues? could you try on that one? [23:29] Mozilla 1.5 [23:29] Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 [23:30] <|Shade> Bertl: I try it, just a moment. [23:30] I disabled the page compression for now ... might add specific 'known working' clients later ... [23:31] let me know if this happens again .. it might be something else though ... [23:31] ensc: switching to vs1.23? [23:31] <|Shade> sorry but my router don't accept my mac now.... somtimes i hate the IT *g [23:32] <|Shade> but i test it later [23:32] np ... just let me know when you know ... [23:32] <|Shade> ok [23:32] ensc: do you know a tiny perl distro/binary? [23:34] Bertl: soon, but it's not really important for me. I do not have scsi and attacks through sysrq are just DOS [23:35] Bertl: sorry, no. I try to stay away from perl [23:35] <|Shade> :9 [23:35] <|Shade> :) [23:35] well me too, but vserver-0.29 seems to use it :( [23:35] Bertl: I have an embedded router that has perl on it [23:35] rootfs 121203 66291 48654 58% / [23:36] hmm, how large is the perl part? [23:36] hmm around 3mb [23:36] including the required libraries and .pm files? [23:36] that looks good, where is the source? [23:37] http://www.nycwireless.net/pebble/ [23:38] argh.. it faied again.. looks like no vserver action for me [23:38] even though it worked on my local machine [23:38] what failed again? [23:38] |Shade (shade@cpe109.bb101.cablesurf.de) left irc: Killed (services.oftc.net (Too many invalid passwords)) [23:39] Shade|OFFLINE (shade@cpe109.bb101.cablesurf.de) joined #vserver. [23:39] it won't boot [23:39] same config [23:39] okay, what happens at boot? [23:39] or it won't boot far enough [23:39] i don't know [23:39] the machine is like 200 mi away [23:40] i managed to upgrade the machine [23:40] well no problem, nathan managed to have netconsole running directly to his home pc ... [23:40] so I guess you can have a look at all the kernel messages too ,) [23:40] doubt they will give me access to something like that.. [23:41] why not, simply sends the kernel messages over ethernet ... [23:41] im also on dynamic IP [23:41] dynamic ip from a hoster? [23:41] plus that would still require them to go over and fix it again [23:41] no.. i am [23:41] well, guess that won't change from one boot to the other, right? [23:42] wish i had remote access to a kvm.. [23:42] i don't wanna keep bugging them about this [23:42] and adding the following option: panic=10 will autoreboot the kernel on a panic ... [23:42] i doubt it's a panic [23:42] (after 10 seconds ;) [23:42] i've never had a kernel panic [23:43] except on devel kernels [23:43] hmm witch kernel u have installed? [23:43] well I guess it's the inability to mount your fs or start init ... which is a panic ;) [23:43] Nick change: Shade|OFFLINE -> Sh[a]de [23:43] vanilla 2.4.24 + grsec + vserver [23:43] 1.22 [23:44] ok sry for my question... but you have executed lilo after set a new kernel link? [23:44] maybe he's using grub? [23:44] a link to the new kernel... [23:44] hmm [23:44] right Bertl [23:44] grub [23:44] uhm thats not my world.. [23:44] i don't like lilo because you do have to do that silly command everytime [23:45] grub is pretty slick [23:45] *g everybody this his ;) [23:45] well don't let us start a religious war .. both have their advantages and disadvantages ... [23:45] i like lilo but this is not the question [23:45] right erbtl [23:45] i'm suprised that lilo still acts that way... [23:45] bertl [23:45] after all these years [23:46] aokay, jonny most important question, what compiler version? [23:46] the question is why your server don't boot [23:46] hmm.... well i don't know whether it boots.. or if the nic just doens't come up [23:46] no ping and no ssh, right? [23:46] nope [23:47] hmmm Bertl had said a KVM switch would help a lot... [23:47] yeah.. that would be great [23:47] i also am of this opinion... [23:47] wonder which providers allow peeps to use one [23:47] you need to see whats wrong [23:48] do you know of any? [23:48] a isp with kvm? [23:48] not ISP [23:48] just a dedicated server provider.. [23:48] hmm we use kvm for all customers [23:48] i wouldn't call that an ISP [23:48] ok :) [23:48] i'm sure they have a kvm.. [23:49] just call your hoster [23:49] i just want to be able to use it to connectot mine own server [23:49] and ask for a kvm session [23:49] i don't even know what most of the kvms allow you to to .... [23:49] i wanna be able type as if i was there.. [23:49] and reboot it too [23:49] that's about it.. [23:49] yea right [23:49] full control [23:50] we use a ActiveX Applet from our kvm to view and interact with our servers over a webbased interface [23:50] damjan (~damjan@legolas.on.net.mk) joined #vserver. [23:50] hmm... activex.. [23:50] and i think... many many hosters should have this [23:50] Action: johnny know use windows [23:51] err no* [23:51] need java applet [23:51] although i do have vmwar [23:51] vmware [23:51] so i can do it inside win2k [23:51] suboptimal.. but i can do it.. [23:51] ok thats right... but on my mac i have np with this browser based app [23:52] i'm not sure if it's "really" a active x ap [23:52] but you should ask your hoster [23:53] questions nothing costs ;) [23:53] correct [23:53] or [23:53] do you know any peeps that offer such a thing off the top of your head? [23:53] network kvms are great [23:53] and there are java-based ones [23:53] ask for a support that reads and send the error msg to you per mail [23:54] the problem is finding a hoster who allows such a thing MrBawb [23:54] yeah [23:54] there's HP's ilo: [23:54] http://dan.drown.org/ILO.png [23:54] i need a new server provider [23:54] jhonny u need a hoster ? [23:54] built into the dl360 [23:54] MrBawb, i'm not trying to buy something [23:54] ah :) [23:54] i have no palce for KVM here [23:54] i want a provider that will allow me to use theirs [23:54]