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<' [00:15] AHTOH (~Anton@212.1.230.115) joined #vserver. [00:15] hi ppl [00:16] hi anton! [00:16] JonB: sure, always miss the members lost for some time ... [00:17] Whocares (~aaa@62.29.118.175) left irc: Quit: sssssssss [00:17] Bertl: thanks, but--- i never actualy did anyhting usefull [00:18] that's what you think! [00:18] bertl i have couple questions [00:18] go ahead, ask! [00:18] 1 -- no quota release for devel vserver yet? [00:19] hmm, good point, we should do one, right? [00:19] but right now i cant use quota with 1.3.6 version [00:19] anyhow i have a trouble with 1.3.6 also: [00:19] stupid but [00:19] [00:20] Last message repeated 1 time(s). [00:20] [root@oxygen root]# vserver-stat [00:20] open(): No such file or directory [00:20] hmm, did you 'enable' some minimal proc entries? [00:20] ? whats that ? i ve just moved from 1.24 to 1.3.6 -- changed kernel and new utils [00:21] okay, there is a tool called vproc ... [00:21] it allows you to modify the visibility of static proc entries [00:21] i havent installed vproc? is that needed for devel? [00:21] one difference between stable and latest devel release is, that in devel the entries are disabled (secure) per default ... [00:22] so i need vproc to make devel work, right? [00:22] the latest util-vserver should include vproc [00:22] /util-vserver-0.27.199 ? [00:22] but you can download a separate version from www.13thfloor.at/vserver [00:22] only the alpha branch, and it is called setattr there [00:22] Bertl: so, what usefull did i do ? [00:22] latest is 0.28.193 [00:23] or enrico, i have a mysterios problem with sshd on stable version [00:23] JonB: well, first you made me think about some things ... [00:23] do you want tyo listen to that? [00:23] AHTOH: which one? [00:23] Bertl: okay [00:24] JonB: and then we had some fun, didn't we, so my work was funnier with you, than without ... [00:24] if i start sshd from init scripts -- at moment of trying logging in through sshd it requires nice capability( if no CAP_NICE sshd closes connection) [00:24] but when i manually start sshd all works fine [00:24] Bertl: good [00:24] AHTOH: some strange pam modules? [00:24] Bertl: remember i promised that dual p5... would you use it if i boxed it up and mailed it to you ? [00:25] sure, but mailing that would cost a lot I guess? wouldn't it ... [00:25] no, standart fedora core 1 [00:26] mmh, I am using lots of FC1 vservers and do not have these problems... [00:26] Bertl: dunno, i guess [00:26] JonB: IIRC you said something about putting it to work on your site? [00:26] with remote conenction and serial line or something like this? [00:27] or did I confuse that? [00:27] Bertl: what should i do with setattr to get devel version work? [00:27] Bertl: yes i did say that [00:27] Bertl: but... i think it would be more work than mailing it to you [00:27] hmm, for you probably, for me, probably not ;) [00:28] frz (~frz@213.235.213.90) joined #vserver. [00:28] hi frz! [00:28] hi Bertl [00:28] ensc: strange is that it depends on when do i start sshd service [00:28] Bertl: well, turning it on in your end ? [00:29] Bertl: how much does a computer weigh ? [00:29] hmm, yes, but if it would be 'maintained' by you for example, we could allow enrico and other developers to access it too, not possible at my site ... [00:29] Bertl: it would cost 40? to ship it i guess [00:29] Bertl: hmm [00:30] Bertl: maybe i should mail it to enrico ? [00:30] ensc: and where can i have latest version, i dont see it on 13thfloor site [00:31] hmm, if he has a way to put it online somewhere, that would be a solution too, if he wants to ... (guess you have to ask him) [00:31] don't get me wrong, I'll take it, no question ... [00:31] AHTOH: the download link at the savannah page should redirect you to the download area [00:31] Bertl: well, the big problem is that i dont have a soldering iron [00:32] you mean your only issue is the remote serial and reset thingy? [00:33] if that is your problem, then I can make one for you, next time I build one, and send it to you ... [00:33] JonB: my student room has very old electrical cables... I am not sure if it would survive another computer ;) [00:33] on http://www.linux-vserver.org/ i cant find any savannah pages links [00:33] Action: ensc is glad to have an UPS [00:33] Bertl: yeah, putting a HD in the computer, and installing debian/linux vserver kernel is not a problem [00:33] so that would be a good solution then? [00:33] AHTOH: http://savannah.nongnu.org/projects/util-vserver/ [00:34] Bertl: i never tried console on serial port either [00:34] http://www-user.tu-chemnitz.de/~ensc/util-vserver/ [00:34] ensc: thanks [00:35] JonB: well, all you have to provide is some account on another machine, which has that serial line to that machine ... and the permissions to start minicom and execute a simple binary (which toggles the parport) [00:36] or you could even setup a web interface to do that ... [00:36] Bertl: that is also part of the problem... i dont like allowing you people in on my main computer, even in a vserver [00:36] Bertl: how ? [00:37] well, the serial line might be a little trickier, needs some java, but I'm sure there is a solution ... [00:37] Bertl: i was thinking of a telnet thingy [00:38] Bertl: you telnet into a port and that is turned into a serial line [00:38] ensc: 0.28 is working, cool, real thank [00:38] JonB: yeah, that would work too ... [00:39] AHTOH: regarding your problem, there should be no difference to 0.27 [00:39] JonB: could be even done with cu ... I guess [00:39] Bertl: cu ? [00:39] ensc: have another problem -- i cant stop my vserver [00:39] it says something about proc but i have it mounted [00:42] Bertl: gadvide om jeg kan bruge netcat [00:42] ?? [00:42] Bertl: i wonder if i can use netcat [00:43] Action: Bertl is looking ... [00:43] ensc : i changed nothing -- just utils from 0.27.199 to 0.28 and it is starting but no stopping [00:45] Bertl, Thanks for your help the other night! [00:45] Anton, get the vproc utility from my page, and just do 'vproc -e /proc/* /prco/*/*' [00:45] ftp21: don't mention it ... [00:46] Bertl; So, now I have it installed.. I would like to create a "test" vserver or something so I can see what it looks like, play with it, etc. How do I do that? [00:47] hmm, another netsplit? [00:48] vproc 0.01? [00:48] AHTOH: 0.27.199 and 0.28 are different tools ;) vservers which are created with 0.27.199 can not be managed with 0.28 [00:48] AHTOH: yes, that should do the trick .... [00:48] ensc: and vserver created with 0.27 ( for stable) [00:48] ftp21: did you run the testme.sh script, just to make sure everything works now? [00:49] yes [00:49] I pasted it to you ;-) [00:49] AHTOH: can be managed with both versions [00:49] You said it looked great [00:50] ftp21: okay, perfect, well, get some 'test' server, either by copying and adapting your host server (there is a howto soemwhere) or by 'creating' it from sources or by installing a test image ... [00:50] hmm. ok. I will search out that howto :-) Thanks! [00:50] ensc: fact is that 0.27.199 fails to work with old servers, even vserver-stat wasnt working [00:51] AHTOH: did you do the proc stuff? [00:51] AHTOH: vserver-stat will not show vserver-names, that's right. But start/stop should work there [00:51] Bertl : it has written some ioctl unable , but now stop works [00:52] see, that probably was the 'only' real issue ... [00:53] it will get a 'sane' default in one of the next devel releases ... [00:53] ensc: but with 0.28 all works fine , stat shows all ok [00:54] Nick change: cdub -> cmtg [00:54] 0.28 does not support the new api, is missing lots of new tools and features, is insecure and is freezed [00:54] what should i use? 0.28.193? [00:54] cmtg: what does cdub and cmtg mean? [00:55] ah, cdub == short for c double-u (cw are my initials) [00:55] the most missing feature (at least) for me is an initscript for the vservers; else it is stable (when disabling v13 API) [00:55] Bertl: and cmtg == me in a meeting ;-) [00:55] ciao [00:55] all: how can i find out which vserver version is in curretn loaded kernel? [00:55] AHTOH: with new tools: vserver-info - APIVER [00:56] gives atleast the vserver API... [00:56] ftp21: if you want to test new stuff, ask enrico about his alpha branch ... it should allow you to create vserver out of thin air ;) [00:57] ensc: i have nt got clear, which one tools are new? [00:58] ftp21: 'vserver test2 build --hostname test2.ultra.csn.tu-chemnitz.de --netdev eth0 --interface 192.168.5.129 --netbcast 192.168.5.255 -m apt-rpm -- -d fc1' creates a fedora core 1 vserver; 'vserver test1 build -m debootstrap -- -d sarge' a Debian sarge vserver [00:59] AHTOH: tools with micro-number >100 are experimental; near, but <100 are release candidates, shortly >.0 are development releases [00:59] what it makes except simple copy? [00:59] copy is not implemented yet [00:59] as i got build copied directories nothing more? [00:59] but 'vserver ... build -m skeleton ...' can be used to create a skeleton [00:59] JonB: hmm, well guess xinetd would be easier than netcat, combined with cu it could do the trick ... [00:59] what is cu ? [01:00] (skeleton == /dev entries) [01:00] + configuration [01:00] and what is the simple way to configure vserver -- take ordinary installation and delete files and services? [01:00] AHTOH: no [01:00] AHTOH: which distribution ? [01:00] AHTOH: what is 'configure vserver'? [01:00] fc1 or rh9 -- i will use voth [01:01] JonB: http://this.is/tpg/products/unwinder/tech/serial/ [01:01] AHTOH: hrmf, whats wrong with debian ? [01:01] to create a new vserver directory in /vservers [01:01] AHTOH: either try to read doc/configuration.xml, or ask me about specific problems [01:01] nothing wrong -- i dont jnow debian, but i know rh [01:02] AHTOH: this debootstrap thing works on redhat hosts too ;) [01:02] .oO(debian seems to be developed for assimilation...) [01:02] but RH/FC bootstrapping is faster [01:03] JonB: http://www.idevelopment.info/data/Unix/Linux/LINUX_UsingSerialConsoles.shtml [01:03] Bertl: seems usefull [01:03] i dont understand what do you mean under debootstrap -- where can i read it? [01:04] AHTOH: try 'vserver test1 build -m debootstrap -- -d sarge' with 0.28.193... [01:04] but i have an fc1 root server [01:04] is that ok? [01:04] (please substitute @WGET@ in /usr/lib/util-vserver/util-vserver-vars manually; I forgot in the release) [01:04] AHTOH: yep [01:04] ok i try now, just compile 193 [01:05] making it [01:05] AHTOH: you have a good internet connection? [01:05] [root@oxygen util-vserver-0.28.193]# vserver-info - APIVER [01:05] 0x00010010 [01:05] year good, but how much will it download? [01:05] yes, probably 1.3.6 or vs0.0[56]... [01:06] and how can i bootstrap rh9 or fc1 ? [01:06] I have not measured it... any Debian people here who can tell how much bytes will be downloaded by debootstrap? [01:06] guess about 100-200 MB ... [01:07] 'vserver test2 build -m apt-rpm -- -d fc1' [01:07] but you have to configure your mirror in /etc/vservers/.distributions/fc1/apt/sources.list [01:07] (and you need apt; e.g. from fedora.us) [01:08] enrico, could you put that magic lines/comments somewhere on the wiki? [01:09] and Anton, could you add some comments to that magic lines, what you needed to do to make them work, how long they took, etc ... [01:09] hmmm 1 question -- where can i read about all that bootstrap -- its just new for me [01:09] 2 question -- i dont have util-vserver dir in /usr/lib/ [01:09] AHTOH: installed to /usr/local/lib? [01:10] oh yea :( [01:11] [root@oxygen util-vserver]# vserver debian build -m debootstrap -- -d sarge [01:11] vserver-topdirectory and/or configuration exist already; [01:11] please try to use '--force', or remove them manually [01:11] what is the problem? why dont it likes my old vservers dir with my two servers [01:12] AHTOH: yes, 'debian' vserver exists probably; either use '--force' or choose another name [01:12] the vserver will be created from scratch [01:12] [root@oxygen /]# vserver debian build -m debootstrap -- -d sarge [01:12] vserver-topdirectory and/or configuration exist already; [01:12] please try to use '--force', or remove them manually [01:12] [root@oxygen /]# ls /vservers/ [01:12] test1 test2 [01:12] [root@oxygen /]# [01:13] hmm, shouldn't that be ./vserver if you changed into the util-vserver dir? [01:13] no i am runnig from / [01:13] AHTOH: and /usr/local/etc/vservers? [01:14] or /etc/vservers? (I do not know your paths) [01:14] 1-16 started work [01:18] serving (~serving@213.186.188.205) joined #vserver. [01:28] Bertl: http://www.linux-vserver.org/index.php?page=alpha+util-vserver [01:28] formatting rules are currently offline ;) [01:28] hey great ... thanks a lot ... [01:29] klasse [01:30] question [01:30] if i have rh9 or fc1 on my ftp near it -- can i use this as a mirror? [01:31] ah, my digicamcorder arrives me at friday :) [01:31] AHTOH: this mirror must have an apt repository [01:32] hmmm , i see [01:32] AHTOH: you can create it yourself; see points 4.4 & 4.5 in http://www-user.tu-chemnitz.de/~ensc/minit-fedora/ [01:33] one more question -- am i correct that i cant have an gre iptunnel inside? [01:33] never tried it... but when it is supported by 'iproute', it should work [01:34] probably you will need sender-based routing too [01:34] 20min took debian downloading [01:36] I: Base system installed successfully. [01:36] umount: /usr/local/etc/vservers/.defaults/vdirbase/debian/dev/pts: not mounted [01:36] umount: /usr/local/etc/vservers/.defaults/vdirbase/debian/proc/bus/usb: not found [01:36] 22min total time [01:37] 134M -- total sizwe [01:37] just warnings; do not matter... [01:37] 'vserver debian start' should start it now [01:38] [root@oxygen /]# vserver debian start [01:38] vc_get_task_xid(): Function not implemented [01:38] okay, okay, I'm working on it ;) [01:38] ah yes, the v13 API is not working [01:38] I posted some time ago how it can be turned off [01:38] hey Anton, got a few minutes? [01:39] yes [01:39] I'll fix that interface really quick and you re-compile the kernel? [01:39] possible [01:39] would that be an option? [01:39] ('--enable-apis=legacy,compat,v11,fscompat' switch at [01:39] ./configure). [01:40] the only problem will be if kernel will refuse booting cause the server is not near me :) [01:40] Bertl: I guess, other things are still broken there. But a new kernel patch would be nice so that I can fix it [01:40] so lets try [01:40] (before I break it again with the create/merge thing) [01:40] hehe ;) [01:41] okay, I'm on it will take about 5 minutes ... [01:42] hmm, what if I make it 15 minutes, and you get an additional quota patch? [01:42] wau [01:42] that will be super [01:49] JonB (~NoSuchUse@kg203.kollegiegaarden.dk) left irc: Quit: zzzzzzzz [01:49] what patch version do you currently use? [01:49] what are the real difference between 0.27 created vservers and 0.27.193 created vservers? if i want to install some 1.24/0.27 stable vserver-- what should i do to migrate to new releases in future? [01:49] mm, let s have a look [01:50] 2.4.25-pre7-1.3.6 on a 2.4.25-pre8 kernel [01:52] okay, patches will be for pre8 ... [01:54] enrico, is 0 for surrent task okay in vc_task_xid()? [01:54] s/surrent/current/ [01:54] yes [01:54] I am using this already ;) [01:55] AHTOH: alpha branch has a completely new configuration scheme [01:55] doc/configuration.xml describes it [01:55] so? [01:55] so the /vserver/test1 shouldnt be changed [01:55] there is no /etc/vservers/XXX.conf file anymore [01:55] it is now a /etc/vservers/XXX directory with lots of files and subdirectories [01:55] and only /etc/test1.conf should be replaced with /usr/local/.... directiry? [01:56] /usr/local is just because you installed it manually; the rpm uses /etc [01:56] that doesnt make differences [01:57] old, stable vservers should work too since the legacy 'vserver' script will be called for them. But this will not have all the new 2.6 features [01:57] and what can you say about possibility of internal/external crashes of devel version? [01:58] crashes? what's this? ;) [01:58] look [01:58] i need to move some important servers into vserver : irc, secondary dns, etc [01:58] stability is important [01:59] and just for now i dont know what to do -- use 1.24 for that or new alpha-devel-etc [01:59] anyway i like that new alpha very much -- so i will continue to play with it [01:59] well, stable is stable, development bears always some risk ... [02:00] but I guess, if it is running for a few hours, it won't crash the next day ... [02:01] yep i think similar [02:01] AHTOH: when the vserver is running, the util-vserver are out-of-the-game. It does not influence the stability of vserver services [02:01] and you should be able to go back to stable, when the vserver is working, or are there any issues enrico? [02:02] be carefully with the new 'vunify' tool, and watch 'vserver ... start/stop'. [02:02] guess he won't use unification on a nameserver ... [02:02] Bertl: why? /var is excluded by default [02:03] well just my guess ... no special reason for that ... [02:03] another issue might be the new fstab support and mtab creation [02:04] by the way, how is that done? [02:04] but ? what can you say -- migration of configuration -- should be done manually? [02:04] /etc/vservers/XXX/fstab is used like an ordinary /etc/fstab file [02:04] AHTOH: at the moment: yes [02:05] ah I see, so you specify something there and it is ounted? [02:05] Bertl: I wrote a tool which mounts the directories in a secure way; at first I tried to use mount(2) natively, but NFS requires more work so I call the host 'mount' util [02:06] Bertl: yes; mount will be called with 'chbind --ip ...' so local NFS mounts should work [02:06] hmm, what about the 'fake' stuff for mtab? [02:06] but multiple IPs are causing problems [02:06] xfs is also unstble in 2.4 [02:06] my tool writes the 'mtab' file [02:06] i had a real race with it [02:06] Nick change: cmtg -> cdub [02:07] enrico, okay, what about ufs/usrquota/grpquota entries there? [02:07] Bertl: quota is not supported yet [02:08] hmm, hwo do I add this then? [02:08] lol :) [02:09] guess anton would not want to have quota patches, and no quota, right? [02:09] i think anyhow quota is not urgent for me this week [02:09] Bert: how is it used currently? [02:10] well, you do echo "/dev/hdv1 ufs rw,usrquota,grpquota /" >/vservers//etc/mtab ... [02:10] usrquota and grpquota should work; the ext[23] -> ufs rewritting should be easy [02:10] that's it for shared quota ... [02:11] mmh, mount is called as 'mount -t ufs ...' then... [02:11] better would be when you say 'ext3' there and I would rewrite it to 'ufs', or when a pre-scriptlet would do it [02:11] well in your automount case ... not normally as the root partition for a shared install is already mounted?! [02:12] you do not mount the / anyway, or do you? [02:12] no, / should be mounted by host fstab [02:13] or a pre-pre script [02:13] okay, but you need a mtab entry for that? [02:14] ok, will make default mtab configurable on a per-vserver base [02:15] http://vserver.13thfloor.at/Experimental/patch-2.4.25-pre8-vs1.3.6.1.diff [02:15] ensc: how do you read that .xml ? without style its difficult to read it [02:15] currently it is a system default and initialized with '/dev/hdv1 / ext2 defaults 0 0' [02:16] AHTOH: I know ;) I need somebody who wants to trains his/her XSLT skills ;? [02:16] ufs and rw,usrquota,grpquota would be a better default ... [02:16] Bertl: ok, will change it. In the meantime, edit /etc/vservers/.defaults/init/mtab [02:17] oh wait... it can be configured on a per-vserver base already... [02:17] I have to bug Honza to add a check, which if direct block access with ext2/ext3 isn't possible makes the tools fall back to 'normal' access ... [02:19] ok -- i ve patched kernel ok [02:20] I hope it does, what enrico expects from the API ;) [02:20] Bertl: probably not... chcontext --hsotname will fail probably [02:21] hmm, inside a vserver? or on the host? [02:21] Bertl: are you working on a 2.6.2 patch? [02:21] ftp21 (~mree3@c-24-21-172-172.client.comcast.net) left irc: [02:21] yup ... [02:21] Bertl: I will revert the changes and call sethostname(2) [02:21] hmm, okay .... [02:23] Tamama (Pluh@a62-216-20-152.adsl.cistron.nl) joined #vserver. [02:23] ensc: you made a mount halper program to replace mount inside of vservers ? [02:24] 'lo [02:24] hi talon!, hi Tamama! [02:24] I think i stumbled upon a little problem [02:24] heh [02:24] talon: the mount will be executed outside of the vserver but mounts directories into the vsever [02:24] did 1.24 have altered network handling over 1.22? [02:24] ensc: at boot time or when anyone uses the mount command? [02:25] talon: at 'vserver ... start' time [02:25] ok. [02:25] i was actually considering a helper daemon similar ot rebootmgr for doing nfs mounts. [02:25] Tamama: not that I know of?! [02:25] NFS is really complicated... I do not get the mountpoints clearly unmounted :( [02:26] how is the new config system going to work out? i heard XML mentioned and got kind of worried. [02:26] ensc: what about /init.d/vservers -- is it installed by 193 utils? i had in init.d some old scripts from 0.27stable [02:26] AHTOH: this is the piece which stops me from labeling it 'beta-branch' [02:26] Bertl: hm, i have a setup now with a remote server, it works. If i move the server local, and thus it uses 'lo'.. i get really weird stalls [02:27] in the end it still seems to work, it just has that weird stall heh [02:27] lo? stalls? [02:27] AHTOH: I am about a script which starts vservers in parallel with honoring of inter-vserver dependencies [02:27] ensc: so i should delete old scripts (v_xinetd, v_httpd,vservers from init.d0? [02:28] AHTOH: they should not hurd... 'vservers' does not know the new vservers, and the other ones should still work [02:28] hehe, hurd ;) [02:28] Bertl: no idea what causes it yet.. [02:29] Tamama: when does it stall, what do you 'call' a stall? [02:29] it waits a period of time before it does anything ? [02:29] that is a stall :) [02:29] Action: AHTOH still kernel compiling [02:29] Bertl: looks like access to that box will have to wait til he gets back form NYC. his workstation he was going to set up a private segment on doesnt have teh right kernel mods and he didnt feel like doing that remotely. [02:29] that might be about a week or dso. [02:30] Tamama: yeah, but does it wait on ps for example or does it stall on dns lookups ... [02:30] hm might be something in mysqld.. but i doubt it [02:30] hm i was running tcpdump in lo to see what happened.. [02:30] talon: no problem ... if you find some time, you can test a little, if not, we will wait ... [02:30] data send to mysqld, wait wait wait wait wait wait ... og right it did something :) [02:31] riel (~riel@riel.netop.oftc.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 501 seconds [02:31] so actually mysql is stalling? [02:31] Bertl: id sure like to find out why teh ustil-vserver package doesnt compile on sparc64 linux. but getting that running on sparc isnt a priority for me right now. [02:32] well i dont know if it is mysql or soemthing else.. [02:32] more interested in testing out those new quota patches with the auto added hash for ctx 0. [02:32] as i said, i dont have the same from remote [02:32] which is still a pretty fast connection (20ms latency) [02:33] talon: it would be useful to test the q0.13pre2 first ... [02:34] talon: I have some fixes in CVS whcih *can* fix sparc builds... [02:34] (I suspect the __syscall macros) [02:34] Bertl: ok iw ill do that now then. [02:34] ensc: did you see the output then? [02:35] jsut because the auto xid=0 quota stuff might hide some issues ... [02:35] if you have a snapshot i could fire teh sparc back up and tell you if it builds or not. [02:35] I saw something in the irc-log from some hours ago. Do you mean that? [02:35] yeah. [02:36] fingers.shocking.com/~talon/build.txt [02:37] Bertl: yeah makes sense. i will bang on it. [02:38] Action: AHTOH rebooting with new Bertl patch [02:39] setting upa clean kernel tree for patching now. [02:40] i havent used clean tree -- i unpatched old kernel [02:40] ensc: you want me to try to build teh lateist cvs on sparc64? [02:40] talon: one moment please... savannah CVS is ... aeeh... a little bit slow [02:43] hm [02:45] talon: try 0.28.194 at http://www-user.tu-chemnitz.de/~ensc/util-vserver/alpha/ [02:45] but this is really a snapshot only, and .193 might be better for general use... [02:49] Bertl : seems a kernel is not up :( [02:49] dont know what happened -- will look 2moro [02:50] hmm, that sounds strange ... [02:50] maybe you forgot to update the modules? [02:50] possible i missed something [02:50] no, i dont use modules (all inside kernel) [02:51] hmm, okay, will verify that patch again ... [02:51] i will have a look 2moro [02:51] now i have 3oclock at moscow -- i go to sleep [02:52] thanks everybody for help , cu later [02:52] okay, have a good sleep ... [02:55] ensc: ok just have to reboot the sparc into the vserver patched kernel. and build it. [02:56] talon: it is not really necessarily to build with a vserver patched kernel [02:56] ensc: no but im going to want to play with it if it builds. [02:56] ah, ok [02:58]