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[00:04] okay, I'd sugegst to switch to util-vserver ... as it works and is maintained ... [00:04] s/sugegst/suggest/ [00:04] k i'll try that [00:04] # rpm -qa |grep vserver [00:04] vserver-admin-0.29-1 [00:04] vserver-0.29-1 [00:04] your static context should work with that again ... [00:05] you can build your own rpm, if you use rpmbuild -ta util-vserver-0.29.tar.bz2 [00:06] JonB (~NoSuchUse@83.89.173.209) left irc: Quit: Leaving [00:06] if, for whatever reason, taht doesn't work as expected, you can download the mdk src rpm, and rebuild that one [00:06] thanks for the tip [00:06] youre welcome [00:06] i'll try it now.. [00:07] doh, i don't have rpmbuild , i've got rh 9 as the root server [00:08] ensc (~ircensc@ultra.csn.tu-chemnitz.de) joined #vserver. [00:08] hi enrico! [00:08] ExpiryJames: it's a package either rpm-build or something similar ... [00:12] Bertl: im looking at the single unix specification and i cant really find an answer to a question yet. if a filesystem doesnt have a device associated with it what is the propper way to fill out st_dev? [00:13] like with NFS for example. [00:13] well, the problem is, those corner cases get it wrong anyway ... [00:13] usually they 'generate' some device id, or just leave it 0 [00:14] <_shur1> src/vunify.c:451: warning: control reaches end of non-void function [00:14] <_shur1> make[2]: *** [src/vunify.o] Error 1 [00:14] <_shur1> make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/util-vserver-0.27.199' [00:14] <_shur1> make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 [00:14] <_shur1> make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/util-vserver-0.27.199' [00:14] <_shur1> make: *** [all] Error 2 [00:14] try 0.28.197 [00:14] <_shur1> ok [00:15] talon: it might also be interesting to look at st_dev _and_ st_rdev ... [00:15] Bertl: oh i intend to. [00:16] i was just hoping the standard might have some words on that. unfortunatley it doesnt seem to.havent looked at the nfs spec though that might provide some insight i hope. [00:20] i cant imagine that leaving it 0 would be a good idea for tools that depend on a uniquie value per fs to keep from straying over fs mount points. [00:21] well, that isn't the only issue, you also have the case where tools (tar, dump) rely on all inodes having a unique dev/inode combo ... [00:21] but, IIRC, that isn't guaranteed with network fs ... [00:25] <_shur1> good it work with 0.28.197 [00:26] you know you are using alpha tools, you also know there is a wiki page? [00:27] <_shur1> Bertl you talk to me?? [00:27] yep [00:27] <_shur1> To see the collection of prior postings to the list, visit the Vserver-wiki Archives. [00:28] <_shur1> The page cannot be found [00:28] <_shur1> http://list.linux-vserver.org/archive/vserver-wiki/ [00:28] http://www.linux-vserver.org/index.php?page=alpha+util-vserver [00:30] <_shur1> ok [00:31] ensc (~ircensc@ultra.csn.tu-chemnitz.de) left irc: Ping timeout: 501 seconds [00:31] <_shur1> but i am using statble patch [00:31] mhepp (~mhepp@r72s22p13.home.nbox.cz) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [00:31] <_shur1> got error with util-vserver-0.27.199 [00:31] <_shur1> so i have no choice to takle the alpha.. [00:31] 0.27.199 and 0.28.197 both are from the alpha branch ... [00:31] <_shur1> ok [00:32] if you want to use stable you have to use 0.28 or 0.29 [00:32] util-vserver-0.28/0.29 [00:34] <_shur1> ok will use stable [00:43] tom9 (~tom@pc-3741.ethz.ch) got netsplit. [00:43] Medivh (ck@62.93.217.199) got netsplit. [00:43] kestrel (athomas@home.swapoff.org) got netsplit. [00:43] click (click@gonnamakeyou.com) got netsplit. 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[19:13] Doener_aw (~doener@pD9588C0D.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #vserver. [19:15] Nick change: Bertl_zZ -> Bertl [19:16] hi everybody! [19:16] hi ben! [19:18] Doener (~doener@pD9E1258C.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 503 seconds [19:20] rmoriz (rmoriz@rmoriz.cpan.de) joined #vserver. [19:20] hi rmoriz! [19:20] Hi Bertl! [19:21] Doener_zZz (~doener@pD9E12FF8.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Ping timeout: 503 seconds [19:21] I have a question if you've got a moment [19:21] sure ... [19:22] so i set up my servers, got failover with heartbeat mostly working [19:22] used the 2.4.25-rc kernel and vserver 1.3.7 [19:23] okay [19:23] and I've got most of it to the point where it seems to work [19:23] i found vproc elsewhere and used that to get ps working [19:24] is an option, yes [19:24] I get an error when trying to stop the vserver [19:24] mount: permission denied [19:25] and /proc not mounted [19:25] seems like one of your 'scripts' inside the vserver tries to mount/umount a fs [19:25] or you didn't configure the /proc correctly ... [19:25] could be - happens on all scripts [19:25] that's more likely! [19:25] what did you do with the vproc? [19:25] how should I configure proc? [19:26] trial and error, turned on meminfo and stat to be visible everywhere [19:26] the docs really are scattered ;-) [19:26] what shall I say, it's a wiki, change it! [19:27] I'll be happy to do it once I understand how it all works! [19:27] okay, make a note of your current vproc config ... [19:27] and just for a test do: [19:27] vproc -e /proc/[a-z]* /proc/[a-z]*/* /proc/[a-z]*/*/* [19:27] on the host ... [19:27] that gives you totally insecure but everywherevisible proc ... [19:28] yep [19:28] then try again, and see if you get the same error ... if yes, it isn't proc related ;) [19:28] ok - that eliminated the errors on stop [19:28] but... still got 'failed' on kernel logger [19:28] so probably there is something in your scripts, which requires another entry ... [19:29] kernel logger is a bug in your runlevel script [19:29] it isn't possible to start or stop the kernel logger from inside a vserver [19:29] btw - running fedora core 1 on host and vserver [19:29] so I should just disable it [19:29] gotcha [19:29] probably there is a syslog runlevel script starting both [19:29] (and also trying to stop both) [19:30] just remove the klogd entries there, and everything should be fine [19:30] so should I be using vproc to turn these entries on/off or is there a better way? [19:31] the devel branch usually uses the alpha utils, which have a special command setattr to do this and other things ... [19:31] I'm using utils .199 [19:31] if your setattr supports --barrier and such, you could use it instead of the vproc [19:32] okay, have to leave now, if you have questions regarding util-vserver, just ask enrico ... [19:32] looks like it does [19:32] Nick change: Bertl -> Bertl_oO [19:32] thanks [19:52] noel- (~noel@pD952CD87.dip.t-dialin.net) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [20:20] Nick change: cgone_ -> cdub [20:37] mhepp (~mhepp@r72s22p13.home.nbox.cz) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [20:57] mhepp (~mhepp@r72s22p13.home.nbox.cz) joined #vserver. [21:22] mhepp (~mhepp@r72s22p13.home.nbox.cz) left irc: Remote host closed the connection [00:00] --- Wed Feb 18 2004