--- Log opened śro maj 12 00:00:08 2004 00:00:11< taxcollector> OK, g'night 00:00:22< Bertl> night everyone ... cya all tomorrow ... 00:00:30>> Bertl is now known as Bertl_zZ 00:02:52>> gst [~gst@wireless.sysfrog.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:06:14>> nalfein [~gaertner@212.68.83.129] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:13:36>> _id [~id@pD95E9A49.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:14:39>> yarihm [~yarihm@217-162-206-157.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:16:45>> yarihm [~yarihm@217-162-206-157.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #vserver 00:23:18>> _id [~id@pD9519056.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #vserver 00:23:25>> hiaslboy is now known as hiaslboy_zZ 00:31:58>> pflanze [~chris@gate.wyona.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:39:21>> shuri [~shushushu@cpu183.adsl.qc.bellglobal.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:01:15>> mcp [~hightower@81.17.110.148] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:38:43>> taxcollector [~taxcollec@192.16.167.161] has quit [Quit: ] 02:03:09>> infowolfe [~infowolfe@pcp04891550pcs.frnkmd01.md.comcast.net] has joined #vserver 02:06:01>> yarihm [~yarihm@217-162-206-157.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 03:28:03>> yarihm [~yarihm@217-162-206-157.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #vserver 03:41:40>> nalfein [~gaertner@212.68.83.129] has joined #vserver 03:45:31>> infowolfe [~infowolfe@pcp04891550pcs.frnkmd01.md.comcast.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:31:53>> ensc [~ircensc@ultra.csn.tu-chemnitz.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:42:52>> gst [gst@wireless.sysfrog.org] has joined #vserver 06:46:20>> Netsplit jupiter.oftc.net <-> europa.oftc.net quits: noel 06:47:24>> Netsplit over, joins: noel 06:54:45>> gst [gst@wireless.sysfrog.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 06:59:31>> Bertl_zZ is now known as Bertl 06:59:36< Bertl> morning everyone! 07:19:49>> hiaslboy_zZ is now known as hiaslboy 07:19:57< hiaslboy> Good Morning 07:21:21< Bertl> morning matthias, sun rises early in graz, right? 07:29:37>> infowolfe [~infowolfe@pcp04891550pcs.frnkmd01.md.comcast.net] has joined #vserver 07:29:47< Bertl> good morning infowolfe! 07:29:58< infowolfe> it's night 07:30:08< Bertl> good night infowolfe! 07:30:14< Bertl> 8-) 07:30:15< infowolfe> sweet dreams Bertl 07:44:28< Bertl> k, translocating now .. wbb later ... 07:44:36>> Bertl is now known as Bertl_oO 07:49:16< hiaslboy> it does Bertl 08:06:32>> gst [~gst@eris.sysfrog.org] has joined #vserver 08:21:14>> hiaslboy [matthias@e-16.vc-graz.ac.at] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:21:31>> noel- [~noel@pD9FFEAE1.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #vserver 08:28:41>> noel [~noel@pD9FFEB37.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 08:30:37>> noel- is now known as noel 09:00:11>> franck [~franck@62.240.242.34] has joined #vserver 09:00:31< franck> hi all 09:09:42>> hiaslboy [matthias@e-16.vc-graz.ac.at] has joined #vserver 09:31:40>> hiaslboy [matthias@e-16.vc-graz.ac.at] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:36:32>> hiaslboy [matthias@e-16.vc-graz.ac.at] has joined #vserver 09:41:42>> Bertl_oO is now known as Bertl 09:42:18< Bertl> back again ... any questions? 09:44:30< Bertl> hi franck! 10:01:12< Shotygun> Morning Bert. 10:01:38< Bertl> hello Shotygun, this is your one and ony greeting for this day! ;) 10:01:54< Shotygun> argh =P 10:01:57< Bertl> (please not the typo in ony) 10:03:34< Bertl> ah, and thanks for using the automated greeting service ;) 10:04:00< Shotygun> *scared* 10:04:25< Shotygun> Damn my neck is so tight =/ 10:05:12< Bertl> maybe I should add a "DON'T PANIC' in large, friendly letters? 10:06:17< Shotygun> I don't trust any of you friendliness, you and your evil greeting scripts! 10:06:39< Bertl> right there! trust no-one! 10:06:50< Shotygun> ! 10:07:10< Shotygun> Make a script for me to massage my neck =P 10:08:02< Bertl> you would trust an evil massage script of mine? 10:09:06< Shotygun> Well, not quite - but, right now I feel like it will be better than anything.. 10:09:09< Shotygun> anything = nothing 10:09:12< Shotygun> *still wakes up* 10:09:21< Bertl> wow, strong words! ;) 10:10:19< rmoriz> re 10:10:33< Bertl> hi rmoriz! 10:10:43< rmoriz> Bertl: where is your donate page? 10:10:59< Bertl> sec 10:11:04< Shotygun> Couple of months ago I used to do all those kind of weird massages and stuff like that, but at some point I got so bored during the treatment while having things stuck at my back so I was hiding my cellphone so I could play with it during the laying - then I figured it's just not that =) 10:11:16< Bertl> http://www.13thfloor.at/vserver/donate/ 10:11:16< rmoriz> Bertl: you should make it a bit more popular ;) 10:11:18< Shotygun> So maybe an evil script for the cellphone could do the trick =D 10:11:35< Bertl> rmoriz: well, probably, I'll try to work on that ... 8-) 10:11:57< Bertl> Shotygun: call me, call me now! 10:12:05< Shotygun> Eeek ! 10:12:26< _id> re =) 10:12:57< Bertl> morning _id! 10:18:27< Doener_> morning! 10:18:36< Bertl> hey Doener_! 10:19:57< Doener_> you're doing massage scripts? i needed one yesterday ;) 10:20:25< Bertl> hmm, for what? tell me about your problems! 10:20:36< Shotygun> Doener if I were you I wouldn't do that.. 10:20:50< Shotygun> *can feel Bert's evilness* 10:21:06< Doener_> Shotygun: hehe, is your neck even worse now? 10:21:32< Shotygun> Hmm no, he didn't get close to it (yet?). I'm just too scared. 10:22:05< Shotygun> Last time he wrote a script to do something he added a last-minute-abusive-feature of kicking people out! 10:22:21< Shotygun> The last thing I need is that he will start kicking my neck.. 10:22:27< Doener_> *lol* 10:22:43 * Bertl .oO( "too scared for life? just kill yourself!" ) 10:23:07< Shotygun> Hmmm 10:23:56 * Shotygun wish he could replace Bert with a hot chick at the moment. 10:24:28>> Bertl is now known as SheBertl 10:24:30< Doener_> no! i don't want a hot chick playing around with Linux-VServer 10:24:36< Shotygun> Woha! 10:24:46< Shotygun> Who cares about vserver, I need a massage god dammit! 10:25:00 * Shotygun grabs SheBertl 10:25:12 * SheBertl slabs Shotygun in the face! 10:25:28 * Shotygun annoyed 10:25:37 * Shotygun throws the bimbo away 10:25:45>> SheBertl is now known as Bertl 10:25:57< Bertl> ah, I guess I stay a script for now ;) 10:26:14< _id> ? all you need is a open source government - then your pain will go away 10:28:02< _id> about software patents - Bertl do you support the anti software patent petition ? 10:28:31< Bertl> not actively atm, but I agree ... 10:35:09< eyck> you write soft == you're anti software patent person. 10:35:45< eyck> this is largely universal equation. Problem is - not enough people write soft... 10:52:59< _id> i dont think so - i think the lawyer groups in large internat. companies and politicans in gerneral are in between dumb and evil 10:53:28< _id> to further support damn patents 10:54:43>> infowolfe [~infowolfe@pcp04891550pcs.frnkmd01.md.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:55:23< _id> there are millions of coders 10:55:38< _id> there are not well organized 10:56:32< _id> they usually prefer to fuck users of others OSes for fun and start flamewars 10:57:01< _id> even linux has their fractions - debian, suse, redhat, gentoo, ... 10:57:12< Bertl> not to forget mandrake! 8-) 10:57:28< _id> =) 10:58:19< Doener_> ok, university awaits me... cya 10:58:24< Bertl> cya 10:58:42< _id> cya 10:58:44< _id> bbl 11:04:18< gst> btw, anyone from austria here who is at the anti-swpat event today (http://mond.at/swpat/)? 11:04:51< Bertl> didn't even know that there is one today ... 11:05:44< Bertl> hey RMS is there ;) 11:05:52< gst> yop :) 11:11:39< eyck> RMS was here yesterday... 11:12:02< eyck> hmm, the day before yesterday 11:12:24>> Doener` [~doener@pD9E12146.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #vserver 11:12:30< Bertl> .oO( hmm, good that it isn't the 'day after tomorrow' ) 11:19:22>> Doener_ [~doener@pD9E12C8B.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:25:16>> gst [~gst@eris.sysfrog.org] has quit [Quit: Client exiting] 11:28:21>> rs [rs@ice.aspic.com] has joined #vserver 11:28:26< rs> hi 11:28:29< Bertl> morning rs! 11:29:04< rs> hello Bertl :) 11:35:55< Bertl> rs: it might be possible to have a separate filer patch too .. JFYI 11:38:33< rs> what do you mean ? 11:39:05< rs> you can split de NFS stuff ? 11:39:14< Bertl> you mentioned once, that it would be interesting to have a simple patch for your nfs server (which supports the attributes) 11:39:52< rs> the iunlink feature you mean ? 11:40:15< Bertl> after the recent (and following) restructuring, it should be possible to have xid and attrib support in a separable way ... 11:40:33< rs> great news 11:40:51< rs> :) 11:42:06< rs> it will separated patch of options at compile time ? 11:42:45< Bertl> I was more thinking of a subset of patches (from the 1.9.x splitup) 12:01:33>> ensc [~ircensc@ultra.csn.tu-chemnitz.de] has joined #vserver 12:01:40< Bertl> morning ensc! 12:01:53< ensc> hi 12:02:05< ensc> what is the new protocol regarding xid 1? 12:02:12< ensc> a simple migrate? 12:02:24< ensc> or do you have special attributes? 12:02:26< Bertl> that would be the best, as it looks atm ... 12:03:04< Bertl> but I added the workarounds for now ... 12:03:50< ensc> I do not have a problem with this; the code is encapsulated in one function. But users will have to relearn that 'chcontext --xid 1 ...' does not give superwatcher rights 12:04:07< Bertl> hmm, why? 12:04:26< Bertl> or are you talking about attributes? 12:05:02< ensc> user will be surprised when 'chcontext --xid ps ax' lists the processes of xid 1 only 12:05:28< Bertl> okay, you are talking about the attribute, no that isn't implemented yet ... 12:05:44< ensc> ok, then migrate() only? 12:05:55< Bertl> but the spectator context (xid=1 for now) should not be created, or bothered with flag settings ;) 12:06:25< Bertl> I guess some of the issues I heard about where from setting strange flags/caps on xid=1 ;) 12:06:39< ensc> ok, then return EEXIST as for ordinary contexts 12:06:56< Bertl> depends on what you are doing ... 12:07:13< Bertl> for create, I can do that ... (which actually breaks the tools atm) 12:07:30< ensc> no. when EEXIST happens, migrate() will be tried 12:07:44< Bertl> sure? 12:07:46< ensc> yes 12:08:03< ensc> you mentioned BUSY on the maillist, which was a bug in the tools 12:08:21< Bertl> okay, I'll verify that .. because I think I tried EEXIST ... 12:08:27< ensc> (other process created xid 1, stayed alive, and a second tried create() also) 12:09:03< Bertl> anyway xid=1 is not possible (to be created) now 12:09:05>> hiaslboy is now known as hiaslboy_oOOo 12:09:06< ensc> EBUSY is returned for create(), when xid is created and the setup-flag is still set 12:10:40< Bertl> guess we have to define some rules 'what is done how ...' 12:11:16< Bertl> so we can code with a know interface ... 12:16:36< Bertl> okay, lunch time ... back in about 2 hours ... 12:16:43>> Bertl is now known as Bertl_oO 12:18:01>> gst [~gst@eris.sysfrog.org] has joined #vserver 12:22:43>> micah [micah@micha.hampshire.edu] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:35:38>> serving [~serving@213.186.191.31] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:29:39>> Bertl_oO is now known as Bertl 13:29:54< Bertl> back for now ... 13:41:22< kestrel> hey herbert 13:41:31< Bertl> hi alec! how are you? 13:44:07< rs> re 13:45:14< rs> Bertl: is secure mount now allow proc mounting ? 13:45:48< Bertl> well, it should ... might be still broken ... 13:46:52< rs> I just read the mail about the 1.9.0 release, when you say that initpid faking is handled a little differently, what do you mean ? 13:47:06< rs> I thought that fakeinit wasn't implemented 13:47:09< rs> yet 13:47:24< Bertl> that the init process isn't faked, but initpid is working 13:47:51< rs> you mean that init will have the 1 pid ? 13:48:15< Bertl> the 'initpid' process will appear as pid 1 13:49:14< rs> so I have to rename init to initpid ? 13:49:30< Bertl> huh? 13:50:10< rs> what is the 'initpid' process ? :o) 13:50:20< rs> BTW: # mount none -t proc mnt 13:50:21< rs> mount: permission denied 13:50:40< Bertl> okay, when you start a context, you can 'assign' one process to be the init process ... 13:51:10< Bertl> this process will have tgid=1 (pid=1) inside the context 13:52:15< kestrel> that is cool 13:52:35< rs> and how to make it work with util-vserver tools ? 13:52:41< Bertl> the previous implementation just 'showed' an init ... 13:52:57< rs> so it's a cleaner way 13:53:14< Bertl> well, I'm thinking about allowing for both versions actually 13:53:33< Bertl> the logic is currently based on two flags 13:53:39< rs> maybe enrico can tell us how to activate it ? 13:53:50< Bertl> one (which is a one time flag) to assign the init process 13:54:05< Bertl> and another which activates the tgid(pid) virtualization 13:54:52< Bertl> so I was thinking about using the virtualization flag to tell the context to 'fake' the init (let it blend through) if no initpid is assigned 14:00:15< Bertl> okay, away for an hour or so ... 14:00:20>> Bertl is now known as Bertl_oO 14:02:59>> Apollo [~Apollo@caracal.norcomcable.ca] has joined #vserver 14:03:41>> Apollo [~Apollo@caracal.norcomcable.ca] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:03:44>> pflanze [~chris@cc-linux4.ethz.ch] has joined #vserver 14:06:25< Shotygun> Anyone here runs WiFi at home? 14:06:29< Shotygun> (or office, whatever) 14:27:21>> Apollo [~Apollo@caracal.norcomcable.ca] has joined #vserver 14:31:40>> serving [~serving@213.186.191.31] has joined #vserver 14:36:12>> Khahan [~Filbert@D5E0628B.kabel.telenet.be] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:46:33>> loger [~loger@213.159.118.2] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:54:23>> Bertl_oO is now known as Bertl 14:54:31< Bertl> Shotygun: what is WiFi? 14:54:52< Bertl> (back btw) 14:55:23< Shotygun> Wireless 14:55:41< Bertl> ah okay, yeah tested that for a friend ... 14:56:20< Shotygun> I need someone to recommend me on some ethernet-to-bridge equipment, I got some weird topology at home that I need to apply.. 14:57:06< Bertl> hmm, let's hear about that 'weird' topology of yours 14:59:25< Shotygun> Well, not that 'weird', but the problem is I need to connect a cable modem with no router or anything beyond it to the wireless network, and I believe that's also the best spot for wireless in the house. the second floor is a regular laptop so a pcmcia will do and the other room in the first room which is a long distanced and have signal issues with 900mhz with it is the computers room with the switch. So I am not quite sure what equipment to use for it. 15:00:07< Shotygun> I believe I need a ethernet-to-wifi over the cable in access point mode. and not sure which equipment to attach to the switch. 15:00:35< Shotygun> Normally it would be an access point with a built in hub or anything at the switch that would connect the cable point as a slave, but that's the weak point. 15:00:48< Shotygun> Inshort, I'm new to the WiFi world =/ 15:01:20< Bertl> hmm, I see, maybe reading some howtos would help there ... 15:01:28< Shotygun> Yeah, still doing that.. 15:01:58< Shotygun> http://www.dlink.com/products/resource.asp?pid=267&rid=794& 15:02:01< Shotygun> This one seems like what I need. 15:02:04>> gst [~gst@eris.sysfrog.org] has quit [Quit: Client exiting] 15:02:22< Shotygun> With some tweaking of course.. 15:07:47>> Khahan [~Filbert@D5E0628B.kabel.telenet.be] has joined #vserver 15:09:10< Bertl> hi Khahan! 15:10:24< Bertl> rs: try changing the line 694 in fs/namespace.c from 15:10:50< Bertl> - if (!capable(CAP_SYS_ADMIN)) 15:10:50< Bertl> + if (!capable(CAP_SYS_ADMIN) && !vx_ccaps(VXC_SECURE_MOUNT)) 15:11:26< rs> ok 15:12:18< Bertl> ensc: what impact will mount/umount inside a namespace (and non namespace) setup have? 15:12:49< Bertl> does it make sense to differentiate between the different mount types (bind, move, device, loopback)? 15:20:03< kestrel> does a "move" mount actually relocate the vfs node to another location? 15:20:21< Bertl> the vfsmount yes 15:20:35< kestrel> that is kind of cool 15:30:08>> franck [~franck@62.240.242.34] has quit [Quit: User pushed the X - because it's Xtra, baby] --- Log closed śro maj 12 15:31:21 2004 --- Log opened śro maj 12 15:33:39 2004 15:33:39>> albeiro_ [albeiro@linux.gentoo.pl] has joined #vserver 15:33:39>> Irssi: #vserver: Total of 34 nicks [0 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 34 normal] 15:33:39>> albeiro [albeiro@linux.gentoo.pl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:33:39< Bertl> hey albeiro_? 15:33:44>> Keepnick: Nickstealer left [OFTC], got albeiro back 15:34:07>> Irssi: Join to #vserver was synced in 164 secs --- Log closed śro maj 12 16:04:48 2004 --- Log opened śro maj 12 16:04:52 2004 16:04:52>> albeiro [albeiro@linux.gentoo.pl] has joined #vserver 16:04:52>> Irssi: #vserver: Total of 33 nicks [0 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 33 normal] 16:05:10>> Irssi: Join to #vserver was synced in 19 secs 16:07:17< rs> Bertl_AFK: your fix seems to work well 16:29:10>> Bertl_AFK is now known as Bertl 16:29:16< Bertl> rs: good to hear ... 16:55:22< Bertl> rs: do you have a dual cpu machine for testing? 16:59:55< Doener`> Shotygun: i'd rather not buy dlink stuff... had some dlink hardware, the ap liked to crash every now and then (even after a bunch of firmware upgrades and no matter which firmware)... from what i've read in the forums, most dlink hardware sucks... 17:00:30< Bertl> depends, the brainless dlink stuff mostly works ... 17:00:57< Bertl> even with good performance, just everything a little smarter really sucks ... 17:01:38< rs> Bertl: I have only that :) 17:02:29< Doener`> hmm... the router in my ap must be pretty smart... first few firmwares crashed when accessing aldi.de 17:03:57< rs> Bertl: what do you what me to do ? 17:23:26< Bertl> sorry, was busy ... 17:24:47< Bertl> rs: nothing atm, I'm currently investigating a new locking scheme, which might further reduce the overhead (only measureable in micro benchmarking) but could simplify the locking logic, and thus the possibility for error dramatically ... 17:25:14< rs> ok 17:25:18< Bertl> this would allow linux-vserver to scale better (in regard of #cpu) 17:26:19< Bertl> and I would need some _workload_ testing on this, as well as some stress testing .. if possible ... 18:00:04>> monrad [~monrad@213.83.190.226] has joined #vserver 18:00:17< Bertl> aloha monrad! 18:00:35< Bertl> off for now ... will be back in a few hours ... 18:00:40>> Bertl is now known as Bertl_oO 18:01:29>> gilbert [~gilbert@208-186-222-203.nrp4.brv.mn.frontiernet.net] has joined #vserver 18:21:02< gilbert> hola everyone 18:21:41< gilbert> anyone out there sound on wrappers 18:25:18< kestrel> tcp_wrappers? 18:31:20< gilbert> yea 18:31:28< gilbert> the ones you can startus 18:31:31< gilbert> startup 18:58:10>> Apollo [~Apollo@caracal.norcomcable.ca] has left #vserver [] 19:11:36< gilbert> echo 19:14:54< gilbert> anyone home :) 19:26:48< eyck> nope 19:29:12>> rs [rs@ice.aspic.com] has quit [Quit: leaving] 19:39:52>> serving- [~serving@213.186.191.31] has joined #vserver 19:40:14>> infowolfe [~infowolfe@pcp04891550pcs.frnkmd01.md.comcast.net] has joined #vserver 19:43:15>> mhepp [~mhepp@r72s22p13.home.nbox.cz] has joined #vserver 20:11:26>> surriel [~riel@imladris.surriel.com] has joined #vserver 20:11:52>> sladen [paul@starsky.19inch.net] has joined #vserver 20:12:18>> surriel [~riel@imladris.surriel.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:12:19>> surriel [~riel@imladris.surriel.com] has joined #vserver 20:12:37< gilbert> meow 20:20:23>> surriel [~riel@imladris.surriel.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:24:02>> shu_away [~shushushu@cpu183.adsl.qc.bellglobal.com] has joined #vserver 20:25:17>> shu_away [~shushushu@cpu183.adsl.qc.bellglobal.com] has quit [Quit: ] 20:26:06< gilbert> can anyone please tell me the best place to learn about the tcp wrappers is thanks 20:28:18>> shu_away [~shushushu@cpu183.adsl.qc.bellglobal.com] has joined #vserver 20:32:34>> taxcollector [~taxcollec@192.16.167.161] has joined #vserver 20:39:40< gilbert> anyone know anything about the tcp wrappers 20:48:57>> sladen_ [paul@starsky.19inch.net] has joined #vserver 20:50:17>> sladen [paul@starsky.19inch.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:52:10>> gilbert [~gilbert@208-186-222-203.nrp4.brv.mn.frontiernet.net] has quit [Quit: ] 21:11:55< shu_away> ensc you are there? 21:37:01>> tanjix [tanjix@ACB64AF6.ipt.aol.com] has joined #vserver 21:37:04< tanjix> hi together 21:38:40>> noel [~noel@pD9FFEAE1.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: Client exiting] 21:58:58>> Bertl_oO is now known as Bertl 21:59:10< Bertl> evening everyone! 22:04:47< shu_away> hi Bertl 22:05:57< Bertl> hi shuri, where is 'away?' 22:06:20>> shu_away is now known as SHu_here 22:06:22< SHu_here> :P 22:07:58< Bertl> how is/was your day? 22:09:03< SHu_here> not to bad 22:09:08< SHu_here> studies.. 22:09:24< Bertl> studies are always good ;) 22:09:28< SHu_here> testing 1.9.0 right now:P 22:09:45< Bertl> hey, and? how is it, so far? 22:09:55< SHu_here> well 22:10:04>> infowolfe [~infowolfe@pcp04891550pcs.frnkmd01.md.comcast.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:10:08< SHu_here> juste installed the aplha tools 22:10:22< SHu_here> i am complety lost with this tools:P 22:10:43< Bertl> hmm, you can use the legacy support for now ;) 22:10:50< SHu_here> pkg: parse error, in file `/var/lib/dpkg/status' near line 2 package `dpkg': 22:10:50< SHu_here> error in Version string `': version string is empty 22:10:50< SHu_here> W: Failure trying to run: chroot /usr/local/etc/vservers/.defaults/vdirbase/deby dpkg --force-depends --install /var/cache/apt/archives/base-files_3.0.2_i386.deb /var/cache/apt/archives/base-passwd_3.4.1_i386.deb 22:10:50< SHu_here> umount: /usr/local/etc/vservers/.defaults/vdirbase/deby/dev/pts: not found 22:10:50< SHu_here> umount: /usr/local/etc/vservers/.defaults/vdirbase/deby/dev/shm: not found 22:10:52< SHu_here> umount: /usr/local/etc/vservers/.defaults/vdirbase/deby/proc/bus/usb: not found 22:10:52< SHu_here> arff 22:10:59< SHu_here> hot to use legacy? 22:11:01< SHu_here> how 22:11:12< Bertl> old tool, default config (legacy enabled) 22:11:37< Bertl> should work back to util-vserver-0.24 and vserver-0.27 or so ... 22:12:16< Bertl> not that I would suggest it, because you will for sure be missing a lot of features ;) 22:12:35< SHu_here> so i must stay with aplha 22:12:38< SHu_here> should.. 22:13:02< Bertl> yeah, you might ask enrico when he's around ... 22:13:13>> eyck [~eyck@62.233.189.138] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:18:36>> mhepp [~mhepp@r72s22p13.home.nbox.cz] has quit [Quit: mhepp caught signal: Autobus error] 22:21:13< SHu_here> Bertl 22:21:24< Bertl> yep? 22:21:41< SHu_here> about the vproc 22:22:00< SHu_here> how to disable it with aplha 22:22:10< SHu_here> open("/proc/uptime"): No such file or directory 22:22:24< SHu_here> rror: /proc must be mounted 22:22:24< SHu_here> To mount /proc at boot you need an /etc/fstab line like: 22:22:24< SHu_here> In the meantime, mount /proc /proc -t proc 22:22:24< SHu_here> Failed to parse ps-output 22:22:24< SHu_here> 'vserver ... suexec' is support for running vservers only; aborting... 22:22:27< Bertl> you can disable it (for testing) in the kernel config 22:22:33< SHu_here> ok 22:22:38< SHu_here> but with the tools 22:22:51< SHu_here> . /vservers/ .defaults / apps / vprocunhide 22:22:58< Bertl> old tools: vproc -e /proc/[a-z]* /proc/[a-z]*/* 22:23:04< SHu_here> alpha.. 22:23:17< Bertl> new tools: setattr -R --~hide /proc/ 22:23:37< Bertl> (IIRC) 22:23:59< SHu_here> good 22:24:20< SHu_here> humm u got to mush ghost vserver lol 22:24:28< SHu_here> 49152 25 327.2M 15.1K 0m01s64 0m08s36 1h57m28 22:24:28< SHu_here> 49155 14 270.4M 7.4K 0m00s45 0m00s43 9m15s53 22:24:28< SHu_here> 49156 14 270.4M 7.4K 0m00s49 0m00s37 4m57s37 22:24:28< SHu_here> 49157 14 270.4M 7.4K 0m00s46 0m00s40 3m38s43 22:24:28< SHu_here> 49158 14 270.4M 7.4K 0m00s48 0m00s40 2m46s53 22:24:31< SHu_here> no name 22:24:33< SHu_here> haha 22:24:39< SHu_here> will reboot 22:24:40< SHu_here> brb 22:25:00>> eyck [~eyck@62.233.189.138] has joined #vserver 22:25:00>> eyck [~eyck@62.233.189.138] has quit [Quit: ] 22:25:09>> eyck [~eyck@62.233.189.138] has joined #vserver 22:25:48< Bertl> hey eyck! happy joining! 22:26:25>> SHu_here [~shushushu@cpu183.adsl.qc.bellglobal.com] has quit [Quit: http://base2091.com] 22:26:39>> SHu_here [~shushushu@cpu183.adsl.qc.bellglobal.com] has joined #vserver 22:27:03< eyck> thanks, I made it again! yai me! 22:27:39< Bertl> let's rejoice! 8-) 22:30:50< SHu_here> dam 22:30:58< SHu_here> the docs for alpha is so poors! 22:32:11< Bertl> hmm, maybe you should start writing documentation then? 22:35:03>> SHu_here [~shushushu@cpu183.adsl.qc.bellglobal.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:35:29>> SHu_here [~shushushu@cpu183.adsl.qc.bellglobal.com] has joined #vserver 22:38:06>> serving- [~serving@213.186.191.31] has quit [Quit: ] 22:39:12< SHu_here> cool 22:39:15< SHu_here> this work fine:P 22:47:11< Doener`> 22:10:50 pkg: parse error, in file `/var/lib/dpkg/status' near line 2 package `dpkg': 22:47:11< Doener`> 22:10:50 error in Version string `': version string is empty 22:47:22< Doener`> do you still get this error? 22:48:11< SHu_here> yes 22:48:49< Doener`> you're using backports, right? 22:49:16< SHu_here> right:P 22:49:25< Doener`> okay, install the original woody sed 22:49:49< Doener`> the version included with woody has a bug and some tools rely on this bug... 22:50:04< SHu_here> dpkg: error processing sed (--purge): 22:50:04< SHu_here> This is an essential package - it should not be removed. 22:50:04< SHu_here> Errors were encountered while processing: 22:50:04< SHu_here> sed 22:50:18< Doener`> removing isn't such a good idea ;) 22:50:31< Doener`> wait a second... 22:51:13< Doener`> apt-get install sed=3.02-8 22:51:34< SHu_here> ok 22:52:39< SHu_here> i retry 22:58:12< SHu_here> good it work now 22:58:16< SHu_here> thanks Doener` 22:58:28< Doener`> you're welcome 22:58:46< Bertl> hmm, what about starting a FAQ Doener? 22:59:20< SHu_here> the flower page is crazy! 22:59:37< Doener`> hmm... answered that one twice... i wonder if the first guy actually filed a bug report against the backport as i told him... 22:59:43< SHu_here> cannot make difeerencre bettween directory and files! 23:03:35< Doener`> but i'm sure SHu_here does a bugreport, right? 23:03:47< SHu_here> about& 23:03:49< SHu_here> ? 23:03:53< SHu_here> the flower pages? 23:03:56< SHu_here> lol 23:04:11< Bertl> you like it too? 23:04:27< SHu_here> the best pages ever! 23:04:36< Doener`> the not-really-buggy but unsuitable sed backport ;) 23:04:49< SHu_here> no i didnt make report 23:05:26< Doener`> ok... then i'll do... 23:06:09< Doener`> SHu_here: your problem was also debootstrap related, wasn't it? 23:29:40>> tanjix [tanjix@ACB64AF6.ipt.aol.com] has quit [Quit: ] 23:30:49>> Doener` is now known as Doener 23:39:44< Bertl> hey Doener, what did the ` mean? 23:39:54< Bertl> and why is it gone now? 23:40:06< Doener> that Doener was used when i connected ;) 23:40:31< Doener> or more precisely: when my client connected... forced disconnect after 24 hours... 23:41:05< Doener> it's gone because I was in the mood to remove it, does not mean anything 23:41:52< Bertl> ah, so it's a kind of mood-tick then ;) 23:42:04< Doener> i've switched to away messages to tell that i'm away/busy/whatever some weeks ago... 23:42:22>> taxcollector [~taxcollec@192.16.167.161] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:42:33< Bertl> probably works fine for 'normal' use ... 23:42:47< Doener> no, not those annoying message's those mirc scripts produce every now and then ;) 23:42:48< Doener> at least i hope my current settings prevent xchat from doing so 23:43:35< Bertl> since I use IRC (and it's quite some time now) I really hated the auto-away stuff ... 23:44:04< Doener> it's not automated, i hate those as well 23:44:06< Bertl> (which, btw, was introduced to simplify communication ;) 23:49:46>> pflanze [~chris@cc-linux4.ethz.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:55:17>> infowolfe [~infowolfe@pcp04891550pcs.frnkmd01.md.comcast.net] has joined #vserver 23:55:46< Bertl> hi infowolfe! 23:55:54< infowolfe> hi Bertl 23:55:56< infowolfe> do you ever sleep? 23:56:05< infowolfe> you greeted me about 14 hours ago 23:56:09< Bertl> a script? why should I sleep? 23:56:16< Doener> hehe 23:56:40< infowolfe> i didn't call you a script, Bertl 23:56:50< Bertl> and btw, isn't sleep an absolutely inadequate substitute for caffein? 23:57:41< infowolfe> something like that --- Log closed czw maj 13 00:00:53 2004