--- Log opened pi± maj 14 00:00:09 2004 00:01:02< hiaslboy> what is the meaning of rcu ? reference count utility or reource count utility 00:01:17< Bertl> Read Copy Update 00:15:37< nalfein> 23:47] .oO( hmm, what sea is between israel and austria? ) lol 00:16:16< Doener`> ok, going to reboot... 00:16:18>> Doener` [~doener@80.130.216.79] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 00:34:40< Bertl> nalfein: well depends how you travel, right? 00:44:12< nalfein> hmm bertl: lost the context for your answer during reboot 00:44:44< Bertl> the sea between israel and austria ;) 00:45:22< nalfein> hehe ok , no sea ... but much desert 00:46:31< nalfein> betwen us is the bodensee, in english constanze 00:46:41< nalfein> my sister lives there 00:47:09>> Doener [~doener@pD9E12AE5.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #vserver 00:47:16< nalfein> re doener 00:47:29 * nalfein loves doener favorite food 00:47:47< Doener> you wouldn't dare to, would you` 00:47:56< Doener> s/`/?/ 00:49:22< nalfein> doener with cacik ... ;) 00:49:27< Doener> Bertl: 2.6.6 does not work reliable for me... and the rcu patch made iwspy cause a kernel panic 00:49:41< Bertl> hmm, please elaborate ... 00:50:46< Doener> the driver for my sata controller (SI) seems to be buggy 00:51:05< Doener> May 14 00:29:56 localhost kernel: hde: task_no_data_intr: status=0x51 { DriveReady SeekComplete Error } 00:51:05< Doener> May 14 00:29:56 localhost kernel: hde: task_no_data_intr: error=0x04 { DriveStatusError } 00:51:05< Doener> May 14 00:29:56 localhost kernel: hde: Write Cache FAILED Flushing! 00:51:09< Doener> happens only on 2.6.6 00:51:25< Bertl> hmm, okay ... 00:52:55< Bertl> and what about the panic? 00:55:30< Doener> my wlan card didn't connect, so i tried iwspy, what caused a (reproducible) kernel panic... prints endless lines of error messages until i hit ctrl+c what triggers the final panic... somewhat about irq IIRC 00:56:32< Bertl> hmm, and this _only_ happens with the rcu patch? or with a vserver patch? or even with vanilla 2.6.6? 00:57:02< Doener> that one does not happen with vanilla, didn't try 1.9.0 00:57:57< Bertl> hmm, would be interesting to test with 1.9.0 ... 00:58:04< Bertl> any stack trace? 00:58:49< Doener> no 00:59:26< Bertl> hmm, unfortunate ... 01:02:24< Doener> building 2.6.6-vs1.9.0... 01:03:10< Doener> btw: even SysRq didn't work after the panic... 01:03:28< Bertl> well, after a panic, what do you expect? 01:04:27< Doener> oops... mixed oops and panic... 01:05:05>> infowolfe [~infowolfe@pcp04891550pcs.frnkmd01.md.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: No route to host] 01:05:31>> infowolfe [~infowolfe@pcp04891550pcs.frnkmd01.md.comcast.net] has joined #vserver 01:11:04< Doener> ok, trying out 1.9.0 now... 01:11:05>> Doener [~doener@pD9E12AE5.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 01:23:24>> infowolfe [~infowolfe@pcp04891550pcs.frnkmd01.md.comcast.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:35:03>> serving [~serving@213.186.191.31] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:37:26>> Doener [~doener@pD9E12AE5.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #vserver 01:37:52< Bertl> wb Doener! 01:37:58< Doener> hi 01:38:29< Doener> that is strange... i forgot to turn on one of the debug options when compiling 2.6.6, so i did a recompile... 01:38:53< Doener> now 2.6.6 crashes on boot, while vs1.9.0 and vs1.9.0-rcu0.3 only crash on iwspy... 01:39:08< Bertl> which compiler? 01:39:27< Doener> 3.3.3 01:39:43< Bertl> and why do you use different .configs ? 01:40:03< Doener> i did the 2.6.6 compile ~5 hours before the vsXXX compiles 01:40:13< Doener> and in normal use i don't need debugging stuff 01:40:41< Bertl> ah okay ... so what is the message on 2.6.6 boot? 01:41:01< Doener> panic on do_page_fault in modules.c 01:41:23< Doener> couldn't read more, machine rebooted itself 01:41:34< Bertl> interesting ... and the iwspy panic/oops? 01:42:43< Doener> drivers/video/console/vgacon.c:%:spin_is_locked on uninitialized spinlock 0000008f 01:42:45< Doener> drivers/video/console/vgacon.c:%:spin_is_locked on uninitialized spinlock 0000009c 01:42:55< Doener> endlessly repeated 01:43:33< Bertl> hmm, I'd say 2.6.6 with spinlock debugging enabled will produce the same messages ... 01:43:36< Doener> had a stack trace once but only the last 2 or 3 lines stayed on the scren 01:43:56< Doener> s/scren/screen/ 01:46:27< Bertl> okay, I give up for today, the network is agains me ... some stupid router is always routing packets on different pathes ... this way my connection times out every 2 minutes ... which really isn't funny ... 01:46:47< Doener> good night Bertl 01:47:49< Bertl> have a good one too .. cya and thanks for the testing ... 01:48:15< Doener> i'll try to get 2.6.6 working... 01:48:35< Bertl> okay, guess that would help ... 01:48:41>> Bertl is now known as Bertl_zZ 01:48:56< Doener> although the ide stuff makes me think 2.6.6 is fscked 02:13:26>> Doener [~doener@pD9E12AE5.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 03:36:37>> ApoIIo [~Apollo@panther.norcomcable.ca] has joined #vserver 03:36:55>> ApoIIo [~Apollo@panther.norcomcable.ca] has left #vserver [] 03:50:37>> monrad [~monrad@213083190226.sonofon.dk] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 04:14:50>> sladen_ is now known as sladen 05:26:45>> SHu_here [~shushushu@cpu183.adsl.qc.bellglobal.com] has quit [Quit: http://base2091.com] 07:18:29>> nalfein [~gaertner@212.68.83.129] has left #vserver [] 07:51:41 * hiaslboy is back 07:51:51 * hiaslboy is back 08:48:55>> Khahan [~Filbert@D5E0628B.kabel.telenet.be] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:50:51< _id> re 09:02:51>> hiaslboy [matthias@e-16.vc-graz.ac.at] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:03:01>> hiaslboy [matthias@e-16.vc-graz.ac.at] has joined #vserver 09:10:29>> serving [~serving@213.186.191.31] has joined #vserver 09:15:50>> Khahan [~Filbert@D5E0628B.kabel.telenet.be] has joined #vserver 09:18:03>> mhepp [~mhepp@r72s22p13.home.nbox.cz] has joined #vserver 09:48:17>> Bertl_zZ is now known as Bertl 09:48:56< Bertl> morning everyone! 09:51:34< _id> moin Bertl 09:52:26< _id> was für ein partitions/filesystem layout empfiehlst du mir webb ich ein vserver aufsetze 09:53:25< _id> im momment habe ich 45GB - 10GB / ext2 - 10 GB /test ext3 20GB /vserver reiserfs - 5GB swap 09:53:38< Bertl> best would be to reserve about 2-4GB for the root fs and friends (usr/var), then make a separate partition for the vps, using lvm or lvm2 eases this ... (channel language is english) 09:54:03< _id> sorry ;) 09:54:20< Bertl> np, just that many folks are reading the logs, and then they are somewhat confused ;) 09:54:32< _id> lvm - i never used it before - time for rtfm 09:54:58>> rs [rs@ice.aspic.com] has joined #vserver 09:55:01< rs> hi 09:55:06< _id> hi rs 09:55:14< Bertl> if you are going with 2.6 or planning to use it in the near future, think about starting with dm/lvm2 09:55:19< Bertl> morning rs! 09:55:28< rs> morning bertl 09:55:46< _id> i would go for 2.6 - if you suggest me to do that 09:55:54< _id> i am even willing of testing stuff 09:56:16< _id> but fisrt i have to setup the base system 09:56:57< Bertl> sounds good, still 2.6 is 'development' where 2.4 is 'stable' so if you want to use it in production, I'd suggest 2.4-stable unless you can't live without the new, amazing 2.6/1.9.x features ... 09:57:22< Bertl> (I'm not referring to the kernel by 2.6/2.4 ;) 09:58:19< Bertl> _id you've read my paper? 09:58:25< rs> hehe :) 09:58:35< _id> paper5-01 was the latest 09:58:41< rs> you wrote a paper ? 09:58:49< Bertl> yep 09:59:06< Bertl> http://vserver.13thfloor.at/Stuff/PAPER-05.4.txt 09:59:20< _id> nice 09:59:22< Bertl> (this is the current, well not the last one, but almost) 09:59:31< Bertl> not much changed to 5.01 though ... 09:59:56< Bertl> _id: you've also seen enricos slides? 10:00:18< Bertl> (about alpha vserver utilities) 10:00:28< _id> nope 10:00:30< _id> gimme =) 10:00:47< Bertl> http://www.linux-vserver.org/index.php?page=Documentation 10:00:53< Bertl> http://www-user.tu-chemnitz.de/~ensc/util-vserver/doc/virtual-servers.pdf 10:01:12< _id> thanx 10:01:20< Bertl> my pleasure! 10:01:55< Bertl> okay folks, have to leave now ... to earn some money ... will be back later ... 10:02:01< _id> cya Bertl 10:02:19>> Bertl is now known as Bertl_oO 10:02:19< rs> ok :) 10:48:14< rs> someone knows what does state_setup and state_init flags ? 10:51:34>> mcp [~hightower@81.17.110.148] has joined #vserver 10:53:08< _id> moin mcp 10:54:39>> Khahan [~Filbert@D5E0628B.kabel.telenet.be] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:58:47>> Khahan [~Filbert@D5E0628B.kabel.telenet.be] has joined #vserver 11:36:28< Shotygun> http://bash.org/?297858 11:44:59< _id> hehe 12:34:38>> serving [~serving@213.186.191.31] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:56:51>> Doener [~doener@pD9E12AE5.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #vserver 13:14:45>> kestrel [~athomas@102.8.233.220.exetel.com.au] has joined #vserver 13:14:50< kestrel> hi there 13:31:27< eyck> hi, ho.. 13:31:35< eyck> it's hand granades I throw.. 13:42:23< kestrel> don't do it 13:56:45>> Apollo [~Apollo@caracal.norcomcable.ca] has joined #vserver 14:10:54>> Apollo [~Apollo@caracal.norcomcable.ca] has left #vserver [] 14:30:40>> serving [~serving@213.186.191.31] has joined #vserver 14:34:04>> Apollo [~Apollo@caracal.norcomcable.ca] has joined #vserver 15:00:31>> mhepp [~mhepp@r72s22p13.home.nbox.cz] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:09:43>> Brucey [cinacio@snape.aspic.com] has joined #vserver 15:09:52< Brucey> hi 15:23:20>> netrose [netrose@SP2-24.207.228.55.charter-stl.com] has joined #vserver 15:34:26>> kestrel [~athomas@102.8.233.220.exetel.com.au] has quit [Quit: Hey! Where'd my controlling terminal go?] 15:49:58>> Apollo [~Apollo@caracal.norcomcable.ca] has left #vserver [] 16:16:23>> mhepp [~mhepp@r72s22p13.home.nbox.cz] has joined #vserver 17:14:37>> mhepp [~mhepp@r72s22p13.home.nbox.cz] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:28:45>> hiaslboy [matthias@e-16.vc-graz.ac.at] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:53:43>> monrad [~monrad@213083190239.sonofon.dk] has joined #vserver 18:13:30>> Napalm [~napalm@host81-7-20-232.adsl.v21.co.uk] has joined #vserver 18:13:34< Napalm> hello everyone 18:13:42< Napalm> its a great day here 18:13:51< Napalm> sun is shining and i've got loads done 18:14:00< Napalm> who's around? 18:14:10< _id> . 18:19:01< Napalm> ? 18:19:07< _id> me 18:19:23< _id> just got back from work 18:20:39< Napalm> cool 18:21:00< Napalm> anyone got any ideas for good bandwidth monitoring programs that will work with vservers? 18:21:06< _id> i currently install lvm2 18:21:09< Napalm> i have found a vserver running 11Gb per month 18:22:05< Napalm> lvm2? 18:22:08< Napalm> never heard of it 18:22:26< _id> logical volume manager 18:22:45< _id> a alternative way of using harddiscs 18:22:50< _id> much more flexible 18:23:40< _id> http://linux-universe.com/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO/index.html 18:24:30< sladen> napalm: ipac-ng 18:25:11< Napalm> im looking for transfer/traffic monitoring, sorry _id i should get my words right 18:25:34< Napalm> bandwidth = burstable limit, traffic = volume limit 18:25:50< Napalm> whats that sladen, im just googleing it? 18:25:55< Napalm> hmm, SF project 18:27:12< Napalm> i wonder if i can build a mysql module for ipac-ng then it sounds like that would solve my problems 18:28:18< sladen> also http://netacct-mysql.gabrovo.com/ but I've not used it 18:28:45< sladen> I have vserver shifting alot more than 11GB (Gb != GB...) 18:29:16< Napalm> yep, but these people have a small limit 18:29:45< Napalm> and i did'nt even see this one 18:56:17>> rs [rs@ice.aspic.com] has quit [Quit: leaving] 19:10:04>> monrad [~monrad@213083190239.sonofon.dk] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 19:36:07>> _id [~id@pD95E9332.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:36:15>> hiaslboy [matthias@e-16.vc-graz.ac.at] has joined #vserver 19:47:19>> hiaslboy [matthias@e-16.vc-graz.ac.at] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:49:19>> _id [~id@p50835ED0.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #vserver 19:49:20>> hiaslboy [matthias@e-16.vc-graz.ac.at] has joined #vserver 20:14:56>> Brucey [cinacio@snape.aspic.com] has quit [Quit: "War doesn't determine who's right, war determines who's left."] 20:15:45>> Napalm [~napalm@host81-7-20-232.adsl.v21.co.uk] has quit [Quit: ] 21:35:33>> Bertl_oO is now known as Bertl 21:35:50< Bertl> greetings everyone! 21:41:02< eyck> greetings 21:48:22< Bertl> hey eyck, how was your day? 22:04:25>> Napalm [~napalm@host81-7-20-232.adsl.v21.co.uk] has joined #vserver 22:04:32< Bertl> evening Napalm! 22:04:36< Napalm> hiya :D 22:04:46< Napalm> i got my new serve up and running with vserves 22:04:50< Napalm> vservers on it 22:04:51< Bertl> great! 22:05:18< Napalm> i think i know what those problems where, i was telling it to clone from / with unify 22:05:37< Napalm> ensc: are you around? 22:06:08< Napalm> i guess not? :( 22:06:28< Napalm> Bert: im just making some utilities for webmin 22:06:37< Napalm> Bert: i think i might make a vserver module 22:07:13< Napalm> because webmin is soo easy to install and anyone can can run it (more or less ;) ) 22:07:53< Napalm> ive got start/stop/restart thats easy, im just making a vserver-stat version in html 22:08:03< Bertl> yeah, most things 'inside' a vserver can be maintained via webmin ... 22:08:13< Bertl> why not use it on the host too .. 22:08:17< Napalm> using the results from vserver-stat 22:08:27< Napalm> thats the tools im making, for the host 22:09:16< Napalm> i need to know how to extract varibles from each vserver config 22:09:42< Bertl> there is a library (and a tool IIRC) to support this ... 22:09:50< Napalm> i was just thinking that maybe ensc had already made a tool to do this 22:09:56< Napalm> ahh :)) 22:12:10< Napalm> Bert: any ideas where i can locate this? 22:12:56< Bertl> IIRC it is part of the alpha tools, labeled util-vserver-devel* 22:13:35< Napalm> can you remind me what IIRC stands for? sorry :s 22:13:54< Bertl> ah, If I Remember Correctly ... 22:14:23< Napalm> im using util-vserver-0.29.5-0 22:15:04< Bertl> # rpm -ql -p /usr/src/RPM/RPMS/i586/util-vserver-devel-0.29.213-1mdk.i586.rpm 22:15:04< Bertl> /usr/include/vserver.h 22:15:04< Bertl> /usr/lib/libvserver.a 22:15:04< Bertl> /usr/lib/libvserver.so 22:15:04< Bertl> /usr/lib/pkgconfig/util-vserver.pc 22:15:46< Bertl> you should probably target this at the alpha branch, but there should be a tool to get the config for the legacy/stable branch too ... 22:17:42< Napalm> i already have /usr/lib/libvserver.a and /usr/include/vserver.h, im going to take a look into the header file see what i can find 22:19:28< Napalm> Bert: nope, just context releated functions 22:20:50< Bertl> enrico will know it ... just send him an email ... 22:21:29< Napalm> thanks bert 22:21:34 * Napalm shakes berts hand 22:30:15< Bertl> my pleasure! 22:43:06< Napalm> anyone know what the option to rpm is for force-update 22:43:50< Bertl> rpm -U --force 22:44:22< Bertl> you might require --no-deps too .. 22:45:18< Napalm> im just compiling php4.3.6 but i get errors on configure 22:45:19< Napalm> checking for BZip2 support... yes, shared 22:45:20< Napalm> checking for BZip2 in default path... not found 22:45:54< Napalm> I've reinstalled bzip2 from rpm, no luck, how do i change the default path? 22:46:10< Napalm> export PATH=$PATH;/dir/to/bzip2 22:46:11< Bertl> hmm, check that libbzip2 + devel is installed 22:46:17< Napalm> ahh ok 22:50:04< Napalm> right as usual bert ;) A* 22:53:05< eyck> Bertl: fine, thank you, how about you? 22:54:05< Doener> re 22:54:31< Bertl> eyck: the night is young ... ;) 22:54:36< Bertl> hi Doener! 22:56:59< Doener> didn't get 2.6.6 running... the spinlock stuff showed up with vanilla, too... won't use 2.6.6 for now... 23:04:13< Bertl> okay, probably a broken driver ... 23:04:37< Bertl> thanks for trying though ... 23:23:23< Bertl> Doener: but it would be great, if you could report it to the driver maintainer ... so that this might be fixed in the future ... 23:24:44< Doener> i'm going to report the sata stuff later this night, for the spinlock stuff i'll have find out which one is guilty... 23:25:14< Doener> it hangs during boot now, maybe i've changed a config option, not sure --- Log closed sob maj 15 00:00:24 2004