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01:17:13< Bertl> hmm, enrico?
01:18:34< _id> re - hoi Bertl & Co.
01:19:01< Bertl> hi _id! how are you?
01:20:02< _id> fine - i just came back from a  class reunion
01:20:06< _id> it was fun
01:20:28< _id> i read some lvm2 stuff - sounds great
01:22:05< _id> is lvm2 in the stock 2.4.26 kernel ? menuconfig shows a LVM entry - but i was not sure if it is up-to-date
01:22:30< Bertl> no, lvm2 is neither in 2.4 nor 2.6
01:22:49< Bertl> dm (device mapper) is the base for lvm2, which is in 2.6
01:23:01< Bertl> but there are some patches for 2.4, which add the dm stuff
01:23:04< _id> ok then i am on the right track
01:23:17< Bertl> lvm2 is userspace only, so should work for 2.4 and 2.6
01:23:34< _id> there is a dm-mod module too - right ?
01:24:52< Bertl> dm-mod? hmm, reminds me of Quake ...
01:25:40< _id> was it .wad - of that was doom
01:25:50< _id> of = oh
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01:40:11< Bertl> hi tchan!
01:40:21< tchan> hi Bertl 
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01:42:27< Bertl> hi Miranda!
01:42:37< hvd> morgen herbert
01:44:04< Shotygun> Ok place bets everyone: How long it will take a p4 2.8 on XP compile gentoo from stage1 in vmware workstation v4.5 ?
01:44:33< Bertl> 3 days!
01:44:36< hvd> bertl: i guess you want diff up any grsec+ctx for 2.4.x anymore ?
01:44:43< Shotygun> Including X? No way.
01:44:54< Shotygun> You will lose for sure =)
01:45:16< _id> including X and openoffice - a week
01:45:28< Shotygun> _id is more reasonable =P
01:45:52< Bertl> isn't XP the fastest and best MOS ever?
01:45:54< hvd> mcp: because mcp drops ctx in 2.4.x .. (well i guess im the only one running ancient 2.4.x) ;-)
01:46:25< hvd> s/2.4.x/wolk4
01:46:27< Shotygun> Actually XP is slower than win2k.
01:46:36< mcp> hvd: I drop it because it's ctx_17_
01:46:36< mcp> :)
01:46:42< _id> and need twice as much mem
01:46:49< hvd> mcp: i know ;-) ..
01:47:07< hvd> hvd: move your ass and update to 2.6
01:47:10< mcp> hvd: was that sentence for me? ;)
01:47:12< Bertl> mcp: and I'm glad you did!
01:47:17< mcp> Bertl: :)
01:47:45< hvd> mcp: ok i tried to ask ;-) .. 
01:48:11< mcp> hvd: :))
01:48:35< Shotygun> Fun, compiling glibc..
01:48:50< hvd> well ctx17 still works fine on up ;-)
01:48:58< Bertl> hvd: take recent wolk for 2.4, and patch in vs1.27, mcp will probably include it right away ...
01:49:24< hvd> ctx17 yust does not like smp
01:49:25< mcp> I will, indeed
01:49:27< hvd> (at least in wolk)
01:49:35< hvd> mcp: you will ?
01:49:52< mcp> hvd: as I said. If anyone comes up with a vs1.27 patch for wolk, I'll include it
01:49:58< mcp> as I wrote on wolk-devel ML :)
01:50:11< Bertl> btw, mcp, what is the 2.6 wolk status? (2.6.6 to be precise?)
01:50:11< mcp> s/wolk/2.4-wolk
01:50:26< hvd> mcp: ok i will retry ;-) 
01:50:30< mcp> Bertl: had no time to start it yet :-( ... I really hope I can start over next weekend
01:50:59< mcp> hvd: but be aware of the ext3 changes in 2.4-wolk and some grsec stuff. It was a mess some time ago to get ctx17 in at all in a working way
01:51:03< Bertl> np, as long as I know where to send UFOczek ;)
01:51:03< hvd> mcp: any preview for .15 so i can start diff it up ?
01:51:10< mcp> hvd: and I really prefer if'deffing that stuff at all
01:51:15< mcp> Bertl: hehehe
01:51:32< mcp> hvd: I'll make one available, sure. Just give me some time (~30 mins)
01:51:39< hvd> mcp: i know .. you remember the fs corruption ;-) .. 
01:51:47< mcp> hvd: I remember, yes :)
01:51:52< Bertl> mcp: diff can do #ifdef, so no need to mention ...
01:52:03< mcp> Bertl: hm?
01:52:09< hvd> bertl: ahe ?
01:52:36< mcp> that's be cool. a diff what can do automatically ifdeffing a patch completely out ;)
01:52:43< hvd> lol
01:52:56< Bertl> mcp: diff -D NAME?
01:53:07< Bertl>        -D name
01:53:07< Bertl>               Make merged if-then-else format output, conditional on the preprocessor macro name.
01:53:31< mcp> holy shit
01:53:32< mcp> what?
01:53:38< Bertl> do you people ever read TFM?
01:53:42< mcp>        -D NAME  --ifdef=NAME
01:53:43< mcp>               Output merged file to show `#ifdef NAME' diffs.
01:53:48< mcp> thats what my manpage tells me
01:54:07< Bertl> which is basically the same, just an older version
01:54:22< mcp> never understood what they'd tell me there
01:54:24< hvd> grz-4:/usr/src# diff --help|grep -- -D
01:54:24< hvd>   -DNAME  --ifdef=NAME  Output merged file to show `#ifdef NAME' diffs.
01:54:24< hvd> i guess im angient ;-) (wow yet another)
01:54:53< mcp> Bertl: so -D name would do a completely ifdefed version of the patch w/o doing any ifdefing in the source?
01:55:06< Bertl> sure, that's what it is for ;)
01:55:10< hvd> cool
01:55:15< mcp> damn holy shit herbert
01:55:35< mcp> why on earth you don't told me that 2 years ago
01:55:38< mcp> grrrrrr
01:55:39< mcp> ;)
01:55:43< hvd> lol
01:55:56< Bertl> hmm, mcp, you are kidding me, right?
01:56:11< Bertl> pulling my leg, isn't it?
01:56:13< mcp> Bertl: hm? no
01:56:21< hvd> ouch
01:56:32< hvd> (this was mine)
01:56:56< mcp> brb, reboot the 93784th today
01:57:10< hvd> guess wolk4.15 is upcoming ;-)
01:58:48< Bertl> yess!
01:59:01< Bertl> now we have it black on white (or the other way round)
01:59:14< Bertl> linux-vserver speeds up the Host kernel ;)
01:59:24< hvd> hehe .. 
01:59:41< Bertl> http://khack.osdl.org/stp/292862/
02:00:17< Bertl> http://khack.osdl.org/stp/292863/
02:00:38< mcp> re
02:01:22< hvd> re
02:01:32< Bertl> contra!
02:01:38< _id> it is not a trick - it's a vserver
02:01:45< mcp> :-)
02:01:50< hvd> its Herbert ..
02:02:01< Doener> playing cards too much lately?
02:02:20< Bertl> not at all, that's probably the reason ... ;)
02:03:56< _id> i need to step into my alcove for regeneration - cya in a few hours
02:04:29< Bertl> have good dreams wherever you might be ...
02:05:50< Bertl> .oO( hmm uni-matrix zero one?
02:06:49< hvd> bertl: girl with red dress ?
02:07:22< Bertl> depends on the episode ;)
02:07:51< hvd> kernel dev always #ifdef .. dont they ?
02:08:20< Bertl> hmm, don't know ... why is that bad?
02:08:49< hvd> did not say its bad ;-) ..
02:08:56< mcp> hvd: no. kernel devs hate ifdeffing
02:09:09< mcp> but sometimes its easier :)
02:09:16< Bertl> but what we know now is that at least one kernel dev always did it by hand ;)
02:09:32< mcp> hahaha
02:09:35< mcp> Bertl: don't tell it
02:09:39< mcp> no one
02:09:40< mcp> never ever
02:09:43< mcp> promise it
02:09:44< mcp> :)
02:09:48< hvd> well the girl remembers me .. i guess i will leave the office and meet my wife .. (hopefully she want expect .. otherwise .. "nudelholz ich komme") ..
02:09:49< mcp> *become red*
02:09:51< Bertl> my lips are sealed *buhaha*
02:09:55< mcp> lol
02:10:13< mcp> Bertl: but hey, now you know who the real working man is 
02:10:14< mcp> haah ;)
02:10:48< mcp> oh, georg wants 4.15. diffing
02:11:29< hvd> what would have happend if i woulnt asked bertl for diffing up grsec+ctx for 2.4.x ;-)
02:11:44< mcp> don't ever think about it
02:11:48< mcp> ;)
02:12:18< hvd> i wont tell .. i promise .. (any bots there) ?
02:12:40< hvd> shit 2:10 already ..
02:12:45< hvd> my wife will get upset 
02:13:11< mcp> your wife is still awake?
02:13:17< hvd> mcp: still looking for compatible human interface ?
02:13:30< hvd> mcp: i guess .. playing some rpg ..
02:13:34< mcp> hvd: no
02:14:02< hvd> mcp: found one or frustrated ?
02:14:15< mcp> hvd: frustrated
02:14:35< hvd> mcp: im married now for two years .. so ask ..
02:15:01< mcp> haha
02:15:10< Bertl> hmm, two years, not much ...
02:15:21< hvd> not really ..
02:16:12< hvd> brb (giving 2.4.26 a try)
02:16:54< mcp> hvd: uploading
02:16:59< hvd> thx ..
02:17:14< hvd> sf or kernel.org ?
02:17:50< mcp> will be: http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/people/mcp/tmp/linux-2.4.20-wolk4.15s-pre17.patch.bz2. ~12mb. will take some time
02:18:01< hvd> thx lot
02:18:03< mcp> np
02:18:13< hvd> ill do my best ..
02:18:26< mcp> md5sum is: 270cd7dd63c78bcdae32c67d5abcadbb
02:18:32< hvd> ill/try/do my bests
02:18:44< mcp> :)
02:23:19< mcp> btw: anyone ever played with openvpn?
02:23:36< mcp> I set up some tunnels yesterday. Really nice, working very fine. Really simple
02:23:43< hvd> mcp: yep me ..
02:23:50< hvd> mcp: and win32 support ;-) ..
02:23:57< mcp> err
02:23:59< hvd> mcp: and more stable then cipes
02:24:05< mcp> I don't care about w* support at all :)
02:24:12< hvd> mcp: i know ;-) ..
02:24:33< hvd> mcp: and mac support ;-) ..
02:24:38< mcp> .o(Tho I have winxp in my vmware but I won't tell)Oo.
02:26:14< mcp> hvd: ~60% up
02:26:23< mcp> really fast compared to somewhen daylight
02:26:25< mcp> ~16k
02:26:28< mcp> max what I can upload
02:26:29< mcp> :)
02:26:50< hvd> i was already lookn for it ;:-) 
02:27:19< Bertl> vmware, win XP, another word and I have to ask you to leave the channel 8-)
02:28:01< mcp> rotfl
02:28:23< Doener> hmm... i got a ms mouse and a ms keyboard... shall i also leave? :)
02:29:16< mcp> Doener: no, you have to offer Doener Kebap for all of us in this channel now
02:29:21< mcp> hahaha funny mcp
02:29:25< mcp> bleh
02:29:26< mcp> :)
02:29:43< Bertl> woa! slice-o-matic *G*
02:29:48< mcp> hehe
02:30:15 * Doener takes out his knife, cuts here and there, hands over some 'meat' to mcp and dies silently...
02:30:35< hvd> blood everywhere .. 
02:30:37< mcp> oooh noo
02:30:43< mcp> please don't let the Doener die
02:30:43< Bertl> 'aus mir macht's ihr keine buschtrommel!'
02:30:45 * hvd is looking at mcp .. "what have you done"
02:30:48< mcp> Bertl: rotfl
02:30:55< mcp> hvd: I am insane :(
02:31:24 * Doener has a last will: mcp has to eat everything!
02:31:32< mcp> lol
02:33:38< mcp> holy shit
02:33:40< mcp> hvd: it's up
02:33:41< mcp> :-)
02:33:57< hvd> mhh
02:34:16< mcp> ok well
02:34:18< mcp> kernel.org is slow
02:34:25< mcp> will take about 5-10 mins until you see it
02:34:38< hvd> ahh .. ok
02:34:50< Bertl> hvd: I assume you do _not_ want to go home now (because of the violence/physical punishment), so why don't you start backporting vs1.27 to 2.0.40?
02:35:06< hvd> no not really 2.0.40 ..
02:35:14< hvd> even if im anciant ..
02:35:26< mcp> Bertl: rotfl
02:35:34< Bertl> hvd: hmm, so you do not like 2.0.40 then?
02:35:52< hvd> well see ..
02:36:53< hvd> "Ahem, 2.0.40-rc7 never happened, and thus never contained a non-working
02:36:53< hvd> sk_buff.c...  *Lalalalala*" .. lol
02:37:05< mcp> muaha
02:37:39< hvd> changelog looks funny ..
02:38:46< hvd> got it
02:39:12< hvd> ETA 1:00
02:39:58< mcp> urgs
02:41:51< hvd> FastTrak : RESET Channel1 * DEV1(OK), status = 0xf885835a
02:41:51< hvd> agrl !"!"§ FastTrak : RESET Channel1 * DEV1(OK) DEV2(OK), status = 0xf885835a 
02:44:21< hvd> mcp: did you reverse the patch ?
02:45:07< hvd> grr .. forget it .. its against vanilla .. *fool me*
02:50:49< hvd> ok 45 hunks to go ..
02:58:24< hvd> only 43 hunks to go ..
03:01:37< hvd> only 32 hunks to go .. ;-)
03:02:21< mcp> :)
03:02:44< mcp> I go to bed now. hvd: please let me know about it. If you have any problems/questions or whatever, just write an email :)
03:03:02< Bertl> mcp@/dev/null ?
03:03:14< mcp> ne herbert
03:03:17< mcp> mcp@/dev/bett
03:03:18< mcp> ;)
03:03:23< hvd> yes .. the hard work is ahead .. (sheduler) .. 
03:03:31< hvd> but i guess i will leave now too ..
03:03:34< hvd> (wife you know)
03:05:09< mcp> n8 all
03:05:13< hvd> n8
03:05:22< Bertl> night mcp!
03:05:28< Bertl> night hvd!
03:05:47< hvd> bertl: is this for vserver-stat : if (p->s_info && (p->s_info->flags & VX_INFO_SCHED))
03:05:47< hvd> +                       atomic_dec (&p->s_info->ticks);
03:06:23< Bertl> hmm, no actually for the 'sched' flag 
03:07:31< hvd> in wolk in update_process_times scheduler_tick is called .. 
03:07:41< hvd> ok need to look into it ..
03:08:09< Bertl> probably the dec goes there ..
03:10:20< hvd> mhh with o1 there ar many ifdefs so i will ask mcp where to dec 
03:10:40< hvd> this is way toooo intelectual for me ..
03:11:11< Bertl> ahh, this one has O(1)?
03:11:12< Bertl> then you have to use a different approach ... for the vserver scheduling ...
03:11:23< hvd> mhh how ?
03:12:18< Bertl> there is some outdated version I did (in devel 2.4) for ck patchset .. which had O(1) too ... you might have a look at that one ...
03:12:48< hvd> ok thx ..
03:12:56< hvd> but i guess i need more sleep until then ;-) ..
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03:13:11< rs> re
03:13:18< Bertl> morning rs!
03:13:20< hvd> 28 left .. this seams doable ;-) ..
03:13:24< hvd> so n8 all
03:13:30< Bertl> cya
03:14:03< rs> bye hvd
03:14:38< rs> Bertl: why did you say that secure_mount wasn't secure ? :)
03:14:48< rs> isn't
03:14:57< Bertl> hmm, you think it is?
03:15:34< rs> thought that it permit only mount of non block device
03:16:04< rs> like bind, move, proc shm...
03:16:08< rs> tmpfs
03:16:25< Bertl> well, it adds the 'nodev' to each mount, but doesn't restrict it to virtual fs
03:16:59< Bertl> I'm not sure that it is secure, so I assume for now, that it is insecure until proven wrong ;)
03:17:30< rs> it's wise :)
03:19:39< Bertl> hmm, interesting bucket config, btw ...
03:20:20< rs> works like a charme for now
03:20:55< Bertl> of course, you didn't enable hard scheduling yet ;)
03:21:11< rs> yes I am
03:21:44< rs> CONFIG_VSERVER_HARDCPU=y
03:21:58< Bertl> but not: VXF_SCHED_HARD ...
03:22:21< rs> yes I am too
03:22:37< Bertl> hmm, but you didn't report that one?
03:22:52< rs> was on a older one
03:23:21< Bertl> hmm, interesting ... 
03:23:29 * Bertl is looking at the code ...
03:23:33< rs> I used tocken bucket for weeks now
03:26:37< Bertl> hmm, good to hear that even this works .. ;)
03:29:20< rs> yes it is :)
03:32:41< Bertl> but I'm sure we can change this, when I start improving the scheduler ... 
03:33:04< rs> I have a pb with the actual setting
03:33:26< rs> I don't know how to make it portable across diffrent hardware config
03:33:43< rs> since a vserver can be migrated on any nodes
03:33:49< rs> -s
03:34:40< Bertl> 'migrated' means started on an arbitrary node, right?
03:34:48< rs> yes
03:35:12< rs> and all node wont be the same in the future
03:36:34< Bertl> yeah, so where is the problem?
03:37:13< rs> with the same config, the same vserver on two different nodes wont have the same amount of cpu
03:38:21< Bertl> so you have to 'recalc' the scheduler settings based on the node performance and the desired vserver perf
03:38:58< rs> yes
03:39:58< rs> it's not like memory limit where you say that you want not more than x megs of ram
03:41:16< rs> should be easiest if we can tell that this vserver can takes 200Mhz maximum for ex
03:42:12< rs> but I think that it's not possible, is it ?
03:42:45< Bertl> sorry, I have no idea what you are talking about ;)
03:43:36< Bertl> if you think that cpu slices are counted in MHz, then just do the math with the actual cpu value
03:44:11< Bertl> 2400 MHz cpu, 200MHz 'desired' -> 12% cpu slices
03:44:45< rs> yes but the configuration is'nt dynamic :)
03:45:05< Bertl> well, the scheduler can be configured at any time ...
03:45:19< Bertl> just start with a sane default, and update it on the fly ...
03:45:51< Bertl> or precalc this before you start the server ...
03:47:32< rs> I think about something in util-vserver 
03:48:03< rs> a better way to configure the hard sched
03:48:18< rs> s/better/easier/
03:49:08< Bertl> post a good suggestion (including rationale) to the ml, maybe enrico will include it ...
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03:51:48< rs_> re
03:51:55< rs_> did I miss something ? :)
03:52:00< Bertl> 03:49 < Bertl> post a good suggestion (including rationale) to the ml, maybe 
03:52:00< Bertl>                enrico will include it ...
03:52:17< rs_> what was my last sentence ?
03:53:25< Bertl> 03:48 < rs> s/better/easier/
03:53:33< Bertl> (not really a sentence)
03:53:35< rs_> ok
03:53:42< rs_> hehe :)
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04:09:03< Doener> good night!
04:09:27< Bertl> night Doener!
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04:47:08< Napalm> hello
04:47:10< Napalm> :D
05:06:46< Bertl> morning Napalm!
05:09:55< Bertl> hmm, actually good night Napalm!
05:10:05< Bertl> night everyone!
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12:45:58< _id> re
13:05:49< lilo> Bertl: grub mostly
13:45:12< Doener> morning!
13:55:52< _id> Doener, moin
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14:01:47< _id> hvd lo
14:02:53< hvd> ehelo
14:03:54< Doener> hey hvd!
14:14:34< hvd> thought doener is gone ... eatn by mcp .. ;-)
14:15:19 * Doener was spitten into a corner...
14:15:40< Doener> some nice guy helped me to get back into one piece 
14:17:40< Doener> hmm... i wonder to whom i should report the misbehaviour of my sata controller on 2.6.6 ... according to the source comment, the driver hasn't changed since december...
14:18:01>> Bertl_zZ is now known as Bertl
14:18:13< Bertl> morning everyone!
14:18:18< Doener> hi Bertl
14:18:23< Bertl> Doener: but libata probably has?
14:19:06< Bertl> (and maybe the 'missing change' in SATA driver _is_ the problem ...
14:19:10< _id> Bertl, moin
14:19:17< Bertl> hi _id!
14:19:34< Bertl> hey lilo spoke again ... ;)
14:23:17< Doener> hmm... Bertl you're sometimes complaining that kernel.org's finger daemon is down... your not using it for automatic monitoring, are you?
14:23:37 * Doener just read the notice on www.kernel.org ;)
14:25:55< Doener> s/your/you're/ 
14:27:02< Bertl> No as I pointed out many times on lkml, I only use it by hand, every day twice or so, whenever I logon ...
14:27:38< Bertl> but it has been down for some time now, and I didn't care too much, because now I'm using an automated script which polls www.kernel.org ;)
14:28:45< Doener> hmm... wouldn't the finger_banner be easier to parse?
14:29:22< Bertl> I really don't care, but as it isn't maintained properly, it is useless ...
14:29:52< monrad> good morning/afternoon guys, i have a nice wedding hangover and i am willing to share it :)
14:30:00< Doener> http://www.kernel.org/kdist/finger_banner seems up-to-date...
14:30:08< Doener> hi monrad
14:30:19< Bertl> and that is what I do: lynx --dump http://www.kernel.org/kdist/finger_banner
14:30:43< Bertl> this is what I used to do: (manually)
14:30:44< Bertl> # finger @kernel.org
14:30:45< Bertl> [kernel.org]
14:31:01< Bertl> but that doesn't work (or only works for short amounts of time)
14:31:47< Doener> ok, i misunderstood the 'polls www.kernel.org' part...
14:32:27< _id> Bertl, you suggested me to use LVM(2) - do do know how good EVMS is ? Or should i use plain LVM ?
14:36:41< Bertl> LVM is nice, but only useable with 2.4, EVMS I do know of, but never used it .. probably equivalent to LVM2
14:40:13< Bertl> anybody interested in testing another rcu patch?
14:50:43< Bertl> .oO( hmm, hard to choose one, out of all those volunteers )
14:56:24 * monrad wishes Bertl had a little patch monkey he could play with
15:01:43< Bertl> hmm ... what's that supposed to mean?
15:04:38 * Bertl .oO( probably a good time to do something else ... )
15:04:45>> Bertl is now known as Bertl_oO
15:07:22< mcp> moin
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15:19:21< _id> mcp, moin
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15:58:36< hvd> Bertl why is lvm2 unusable ?
15:58:42< hvd> moin btw ..
16:02:55< mcp> hey hvd
16:03:06< mcp> lvm2 is unusable?
16:06:58< hvd> mcp: [14:34] Bertl: LVM is nice, but only useable with 2.4, EVMS I do know of, but never used it .. probably equivalent to LVM2
16:07:30< hvd> mcp: maybe my misinterpretation
16:08:11< mcp> ahok
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16:08:48< tanjix> hi together
16:08:58< mcp> hi you alone
16:09:06< mcp> ;)
16:16:18< tanjix> i've got a little problem with the rebootmgr anyone here who has expertise on that ?
16:42:09< hvd> mcp: can you help me with o1 and ctx ?
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16:44:11< Napalm> hiya everyone
16:44:14< Napalm> :)
16:44:42< Napalm> anyone around?
16:46:06< Napalm> ive been getting this in my system messages 'vservers: /etc/rc3.d/S98vservers: line 1: <vserver_here>: command not found' and then 'vservers: virtual server list not configured for on boot start'
16:46:41< Napalm> what the hell does that mean? all the vservers startup ok tho?
16:47:26< hvd> head /etc/rc3.d/S98vservers
16:50:06< Napalm> yep
16:50:36< Napalm> #!/bin/sh
16:50:36< Napalm> # chkconfig: 345 98 10
16:50:36< Napalm> # description: The vservers service is used to start and stop all
16:50:36< Napalm> #              the virtual servers.
16:50:36< Napalm> USR_SBIN=/usr/sbin
16:50:38< Napalm> # Print the vserver name in priority/alpha order
16:50:38< Napalm> sortserver(){
16:50:43< Napalm> thats the output
16:50:51< Napalm> it just does'nt make sense?
16:51:27< hvd> replace bin/sh with bin/bash
16:51:35< hvd> if sh =! bash
16:52:54< Napalm> just rebooting to test the thoery
16:57:13< Napalm> nope, errors still in the log with a new timedate stamp
16:57:58< Napalm> hvd: would it help if i sent you the boot.log file?
16:58:16< hvd> suse ?
16:58:26< Napalm> rh9
16:58:45< Doener> Napalm: which vserver
16:58:56< Napalm> vs1.27
16:59:11< Doener> no ;) execute that one 
16:59:20< hvd> ;-)
16:59:26< Napalm> ;)
16:59:53< Doener> smily-hour - write one get two back
16:59:55< Napalm> its /usr/sbin/vserver
17:00:10< Napalm> lol
17:02:39< Doener> hmm... had the wrong line...
17:03:00< Napalm> http://www.vhd.org.uk/vserver/bootlog.txt
17:04:08< Napalm> ??
17:04:45< Doener> Napalm: vservers are still stopped?
17:05:28< Napalm> nope its up
17:05:31< Napalm> from boot
17:05:40< Napalm> the vserver is called redhat9
17:05:56< Doener> hmm... why is it listed three times...
17:06:10< Doener> please stop it and do: bash -x /etc/init.d/vservers start
17:06:40< Napalm> yep
17:06:42< Napalm> want the output
17:06:43< Napalm> ?
17:06:46< Doener> sure ;)
17:08:13< Napalm> http://www.vhd.org.uk/vserver/vserverstart.txt
17:08:51< Napalm> ahh i see my problem
17:09:18< Napalm> list.conf is a file i created for one of my scripts to manage vservers
17:09:30< Napalm> it thinks its a vserver and trys to start it
17:09:33< Napalm> :s
17:09:43< Doener> that's it :-)
17:10:15< Doener> bash -x magic ;-)
17:10:41< Napalm> what does -x do?
17:10:47< Napalm> output the commands aswell?
17:11:58< Doener> yepp
17:24:22< Napalm> yep no more erros
17:24:26< Napalm> *errors
17:24:28< Napalm> :D
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18:23:53< gilbert> hola amigos
18:24:26< gilbert> echo
18:24:42< gilbert> r
18:24:44< gilbert> e
18:24:44< gilbert> c
18:24:47< gilbert> h
18:24:48< gilbert> o
18:24:58< gilbert> :)
18:25:31< gilbert> anyways thanks to some of your guyes help i got it to work
18:25:45< gilbert> only having trouble with dns stuff
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19:12:17< gilbert> hello
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19:28:11< Checky> hi
19:29:39< Checky> I've a little problem with the 1.3.9 release. when I try to start a server with "vserver test start", I always get:
19:29:43< Checky> "Can not find vserver-setup; please make sure that the vserver configuration
19:29:43< Checky> is located at /usr/local/etc/vservers/test/"
19:30:00< Checky> I thought all configurationfiles must be under /etc/vservers ?
19:31:40< Checky> when I copy the conf, I get new errors like missing vdir, missing var/run/utmp and so on
19:34:42< Checky> (I've a vserver already running, but that is 2.4.22-ctx17a...and I can't find any hints to these changes in the docs)
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19:52:49< gilbert> checky thats a bummer man
19:53:00< gilbert> dont know what to tell you
19:58:28< Checky> so'n mist...
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20:06:13< gilbert> hello
20:06:34< gilbert> aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaanyone home
20:06:41< gilbert> :>
20:07:06< Checky> :)
20:07:24< gilbert> whoa
20:07:44< gilbert> we get signal
20:07:49< gilbert> main screen turn on
20:08:12< gilbert> hello gentle men
20:08:18< gilbert> how are you today
20:08:25< gilbert> all of your base are belong to us
20:08:58< gilbert> all of your vservers are belong to us
20:09:04< gilbert> ;)
20:10:33< Checky> lol
20:10:45< Checky> my vserver isn't belong to me
20:10:46< Checky> :)
20:25:47< gilbert> must be a spam bot by now :-(
20:25:52< gilbert> bummer
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21:07:27< Doener> Checky: what does 'which vserver' tell?
21:13:35< Checky> well, now /usr/local/sbin/vserver
21:13:54< Checky> but I changed back to 1.2.7
21:14:19< Checky> and this one work...I'll test the devel on an other server later :)
21:14:28< Doener> 1.2.7? did i miss something? thought util-vserver is at 0.29.x
21:14:53< Checky> yep, util-vserver ist 0.29x
21:15:39< Doener> ok, so you mean 1.27 and refer to your vserver patch version?
21:15:46< Checky> weiss nicht, unter der devel lief der vserver einmal und dannach ging das auch erst mit den fehler los...
21:16:49< Checky> well, I've tried the devel version with the patches and vserver-util0.29x
21:17:04< Doener> the error you mentioned isn't related to the vserver patch, but the tools
21:17:12< Checky> hm
21:17:15< Doener> probably you compiled them with a wrong prefix
21:18:55< Checky> don't think so..I've used the default
21:19:53< Checky> can't say what it was...I've delete all downloads and started again
21:20:00< Checky> now it seems to work
21:20:06< Doener> and you're sure that the default matches your previous settings?
21:21:13< Doener> well, if it works now, then that's just fine... no need to bother with solved problems i'd say...
21:22:15< Checky> me too, but anyway thanks :)
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22:40:09< Napalm> hello all
22:40:11< Napalm> :D
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