--- Log opened nie maj 16 00:00:40 2004
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00:33:11< Bertl> evening everyone!
00:34:10< Shotygun> Hello Bert =)
00:34:38< Bertl> .oO( hmm should I greet him now? ;)
00:35:16< Shotygun> Heh, you know, I actually joined the channel and I wondered where is my greeting, and then I was very disappointed to see you *_oO..
00:35:43< Bertl> well, looks like the folks here had a nice day without me ...
00:36:02< Bertl> 20:06 < gilbert> aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaanyon
00:36:10< Shotygun> I havn't followed much, I been struggling today with too many stuff and came out with absolutely zero results.
00:36:21< Bertl> 18:24 < gilbert> echo
00:36:41< Shotygun> The worst was that I installed gentoo over this vmware and it seems like it saved ZERO changes after I finished to emerge everything and booted up for the new kernel.
00:36:47< Shotygun> That was the top =P
00:37:01< Bertl> hmm, why vmware?
00:37:14< Shotygun> Installed it for somebody
00:37:25< Bertl> yeah, but why?
00:37:35< Shotygun> Because the guy wanted his XP
00:37:56< Shotygun> There is one huge disadvantage in linux for israeli people - hebrew.
00:37:57< Bertl> with a vmware running gentoo?
00:38:14< Shotygun> The issue is very problematic for israeli linux users, the support is pretty bad..
00:38:29< Shotygun> So that's why it's harder for israeli people to switch..
00:38:35< Shotygun> And yep.
00:38:39< Shotygun> Wanted to try it out.
00:39:25< Bertl> hmm, well, so be it ...
00:39:32< Shotygun> *shrugs*
00:39:40< Shotygun> Anything new under the sun?
00:40:02< Bertl> yes, actually I finished the rcu stuff, but nobody wanted to try it yet ;)
00:40:49< Shotygun> I would love to but unfortunately I can't really do any real tests lately =/ Formatting and abusing both development & production machines lately for some new project..
00:41:58< Bertl> well, no problem, seems like the interest in linux-vserver is low at the moment anyways .. so not much need for improvement for now ...
00:42:24< Shotygun> Low? that's odd..
00:43:03< Shotygun> What was that chat thing around wolk yesterday btw? Is vserver going to be patched into wolk?
00:43:38< Bertl> it already was, but nobody updated it .. luckily mcp removed the old crap from the 2.4 wolk branch
00:44:14< Shotygun> And hvd updating it?
00:44:39< Bertl> yep he is trying, maybe he'll succeed ...
00:45:30< Shotygun> After I will finish abusing my machines I will try to work on v1.9+grsec v2.0, I bet I will abuse you for that =P
00:45:53< Bertl> ad low: 2004-03-23  8.25%  14.46%  418  388  8.75  0  1.27
00:46:02< Bertl> 2004-05-11  8.30%  4.99%  228  217  8.75  0  1.9.0
00:46:15< Shotygun> But first I have to finish doing basic schemes and scripting of simple billing system before all that. Ever heard of "e-bills" or perhaps some other GPL billing system?
00:46:22< Bertl> 4th and 5th column are the url hits ...
00:47:09< Shotygun> Hmm
00:47:10< Bertl> Shotygun: heard of some, do not remember the names, and haven't used any of them yet ...
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00:47:25< Shotygun> Hey Doener
00:47:32< Bertl> anyway, I'll go to bed now ... was a funny day for me ...
00:47:39< Bertl> aloha Doener!
00:47:46< Bertl> cya Shotygun!
00:47:51< Bertl> night everyone!
00:47:52< Shotygun> Night Bert =)
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04:20:10< Doener`> hmm... damn reconnect at twelve o'clock in the clock... have to place that somewhen else...
04:20:58< Doener`> gee... took 2-3 minutes to type that sentence... i better go to bed now... i'm _way_ too drunk
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10:59:31< Bertl> morning everyone!
11:07:47< hiaslboy> morning bertl 
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11:44:07< marv|n> hi
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13:06:39< flock> hey guys, the other admin in my company messed S_CAPS in one of our vserver configs and im wondering what would be needed for bind to be able to use capset()?
13:15:39< eyck> are you sure that CAPS are broken and not bind?
13:15:54< flock> yes, fixed it:P
13:16:11< flock> CAP_SYS_RESOURCE was the missing thing
13:17:11< eyck> hmm, why do you think one should give CAP_SYS_RESOURCE to a bind?
13:26:41< flock> eyck: because bind wont start otherwise
13:26:45< flock> (named that is)
13:33:12>> Napalm [~napalm@host81-7-23-82.adsl.v21.co.uk] has joined #vserver
13:33:25< Napalm> hello bert, everyone :D
13:35:33< Napalm> anyone around i want to show of my webmin module
13:41:35< eyck> flock: bind won't start without it because it's broken.
13:43:04< flock> eyck: oh well:)
13:43:35< eyck> better course of action is to fix bind9, and not give out CAPs like that..
13:43:52< eyck> this matter has been discussed to death here, and on linux-vserver ML
13:44:26< flock> i understand
13:45:06< flock> another question. is there any other reason why CAP_SYS_RAW be given, besides ping
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13:48:09< eyck> CAP_NET_RAW is needed by ping, but, it's only needed because of broken ping design;) There are nCAP_NET_RAW-free ping implementations outthere... for example - poink from lcamtuf.
13:48:32< Napalm> anyone still here
13:48:37< eyck> nope
13:48:40< eyck> we're all dead.
13:48:43 * flock nods
13:48:45< eyck> dead beef.
13:48:47< flock> eyck: good point
13:48:47< Napalm> lol
13:49:23< eyck> which reminds me... I was to upload poink-package to debian... and forgot all about it :( 
13:55:53< Napalm> can you tell me what you think?
13:56:01< Napalm> http://www.vhd.org.uk/vserver/vdsmgr-webmin.png
13:58:05< Napalm> any thoughts?
13:59:01< eyck> constructive? or any thoughts?
14:00:42< Napalm> any
14:00:43< Napalm> :)
14:01:51< eyck> well... I don't like this idea of configuring system via some web-based interface.
14:02:02< eyck> that is all.
14:02:15< Napalm> its just stop start and restart with the vserver-stat as html
14:02:59< eyck> yes, unneeded bloat and overhead..
14:03:18< Napalm> well its needed for staffing
14:03:35< Napalm> im not going to be the only one accessing them
14:03:41< eyck> ok.
14:03:48< Napalm> and i would'nt trust anyone to use a shell
14:03:50< Napalm> ;)
14:05:28< Napalm> has bert been talking latly?
14:05:57< eyck> yup, he came at 10:59:
14:06:04< eyck> 10:59 -!- Bertl_zZ is now known as Bertl
14:06:05< eyck> 10:59 < Bertl> morning everyone!
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14:13:50< Webskipper> Hello
14:13:55< Webskipper> I have a question
14:14:15 * Bertl hasn't been talking lately ...
14:14:37< Webskipper> I get 
14:14:37< Webskipper> /dev/hdv1 2105979 969530 1136449 47% /
14:14:38< Webskipper> dd: writing `test\': No space left on device
14:15:30< Webskipper> df shows that enoug space is free but  cannot write on disk - does anybody know this ?
14:24:19< Napalm> have you got quotas on?
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14:48:59< Webskipper> no
14:52:48< Napalm> it was just a thought that may not have accured before, im not sure m8, im not expert
14:52:53< Napalm> *no export
14:57:57< Napalm> back be later
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16:09:04< kestrel> hi
16:09:38< Bertl> hi alec!
16:32:05< kestrel> hey herbert, how are you?
17:03:13< Bertl> little busy, but fine ;)
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18:28:36< bluefire> hiho
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23:47:35< Napalm> hello everyone
23:47:48 * flock waves at Napalm
23:47:50< Napalm> Bert you up and about>
23:48:00 * Napalm waves back to flock
23:50:29< Napalm> does anyone know what newvserver needs to run, what dependancies
23:50:43< Napalm> i am getting lots of errors with it, im thinking im missing somthing
--- Log closed pon maj 17 00:00:55 2004