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From: Martin List-Petersen (martin_at_list-petersen.net)
Date: Wed 16 Jun 2004 - 17:06:50 BST

I've discussed this issue with Herbert and others before.

Allready now we have spamassassin, denial of html mails, denial of
posts, that don't have the mailinglist in To: or Cc:, virusscan and
various other stuff in place on the mailinglist server and you wouldn't
believe how much spam actually ends up to be managed by the moderator +
what spamassassin allready takes.

I have suggested, that I could implement a whitelisting option that
looks like this:

- All subscribers to the mailinglist are automatic whitelistet.
- "+" as a delimiter would be taken care of, meaning if you use one
time email addresses like martin+20040616_at_mydomain.top the frontend
would search for martin_at_mydomain.top in the whitelist.
- Everybody who is not in the whitelist will get a mail to confirm hos
post, once confirmed (either by reply or url) the mail is send to the
- Mails not confirmed within 7 days will be discarded automatically.
- Mails where the mailinglist name not is in either To: or Cc: will
allways be discarded.

I haven't yet got any feedback if that would be acceptible or not

Kind regards,
Martin List-Petersen
martin (at) list (dash) petersen (dot) net

On Wed, 2004-06-16 at 13:59, Jon Bendtsen wrote:
> Den 16. jun 2004, kl. 14:47, skrev Herbert Poetzl:
> > On Wed, Jun 16, 2004 at 08:18:00AM -0400, Guarino, Kenneth (ETSD)
> > wrote:
> >> This is the vserver list. I don't want this shit.
> >
> > well, me neither, what do you propose?
> >
> > some things I would like to avoid:
> >
> > - closed mailing list (lkml doesn't need it, why should we?)
> > - additional work (like reviewing every post personally)
> well, we just need some automatic spam recognition software, this could
> be one or more of the
> following solutions:
> greylisting - at the mailling list server, works by temporarely denying
> emails (spammers dont retry).
> once the real mailerdaemon retries, the mailinglist server looks up
> a tripple based on
> to, from and the connecting mailerdaemon ip address
> spamassassin - checks the mail for rules that makes it look like spam.
> If it is spam, let Mr. moderator,
> aka Kenneth Guarino, see if it is spam or not.
> SPF - We users should really use SPF to tell what sending mailservers
> we use.
> And thus Herbert is free to code on vserver, something we all benefit
> from.
> JonB
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