From: Herbert Poetzl (herbert_at_13thfloor.at)
Date: Wed 16 Jun 2004 - 17:26:17 BST
On Wed, Jun 16, 2004 at 05:06:50PM +0100, Martin List-Petersen wrote:
> I've discussed this issue with Herbert and others before.
>
> Allready now we have spamassassin, denial of html mails, denial of
> posts, that don't have the mailinglist in To: or Cc:, virusscan and
> various other stuff in place on the mailinglist server and you wouldn't
> believe how much spam actually ends up to be managed by the moderator +
> what spamassassin allready takes.
could you make those spamassasin tags available
to the recipient of the ml mails? that would
allow folks to further restrict the postings ...
> I have suggested, that I could implement a whitelisting option that
> looks like this:
>
> - All subscribers to the mailinglist are automatic whitelistet.
> - "+" as a delimiter would be taken care of, meaning if you use one
> time email addresses like martin+20040616_at_mydomain.top the frontend
> would search for martin_at_mydomain.top in the whitelist.
> - Everybody who is not in the whitelist will get a mail to confirm hos
> post, once confirmed (either by reply or url) the mail is send to the
> mailinglist
> - Mails not confirmed within 7 days will be discarded automatically.
> - Mails where the mailinglist name not is in either To: or Cc: will
> allways be discarded.
>
>
> I haven't yet got any feedback if that would be acceptible or not
that sounds acceptable to me ...
TIA,
Herbert
PS: it seems that folks still have problems subscribing
to the mailing list ...
PPS: maybe I misunderstood your proposal the last time
> Kind regards,
> Martin List-Petersen
> martin (at) list (dash) petersen (dot) net
>
> On Wed, 2004-06-16 at 13:59, Jon Bendtsen wrote:
> > Den 16. jun 2004, kl. 14:47, skrev Herbert Poetzl:
> >
> > > On Wed, Jun 16, 2004 at 08:18:00AM -0400, Guarino, Kenneth (ETSD)
> > > wrote:
> > >> This is the vserver list. I don't want this shit.
> > >
> > > well, me neither, what do you propose?
> > >
> > > some things I would like to avoid:
> > >
> > > - closed mailing list (lkml doesn't need it, why should we?)
> > > - additional work (like reviewing every post personally)
> >
> > well, we just need some automatic spam recognition software, this could
> > be one or more of the
> > following solutions:
> >
> > greylisting - at the mailling list server, works by temporarely denying
> > emails (spammers dont retry).
> > once the real mailerdaemon retries, the mailinglist server looks up
> > a tripple based on
> > to, from and the connecting mailerdaemon ip address
> > spamassassin - checks the mail for rules that makes it look like spam.
> > If it is spam, let Mr. moderator,
> > aka Kenneth Guarino, see if it is spam or not.
> > SPF - We users should really use SPF to tell what sending mailservers
> > we use.
> >
> >
> > And thus Herbert is free to code on vserver, something we all benefit
> > from.
> >
> >
> >
> > JonB
> >
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