These deprecated debian tools aside, is there a Linux flavor (i.e.
Debian versus RHEL families) that is the best (and possibly easiest)
at getting (pre-built) the most current vserver kernel and
util-vserver packages? Just asking with hopes that I don't ignite a
"this is the best Linux flavor because ..." war....
John
We can't solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used
when we created them. -- Albert Einstein
On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 9:05 AM, Herbert Poetzl <herbert@13thfloor.at> wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 01:53:54PM +0200, Raphael Bauduin wrote:
>> On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 1:34 PM, Herbert Poetzl <herbert@13thfloor.at> wrote:
>>> On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 12:16:33PM +0200, Raphael Bauduin wrote:
>>>> Hi,
>
>>>> To backup my vservers, I run a script from cron, and this
>>>> script stop, backups up and starts each vserver.
>>>> The vserver command however outputs this error:
>
>>>> stty: standard input: Inappropriate ioctl for device
>
>>> please show us the script and the crontab invocation
>
>> Here's the script
>
>> #!/bin/bash
>
>> . ./backup_vars.sh
>> for d in /var/lib/vservers/* ; do
>> vserver=$(basename $d)
>> vserver --silent $vserver stop
>> ./vs_time_machine.sh $d
>> vserver --silent $vserver start
>> done
>
>> And cron invocation:
>
>> 00 04 * * * root cd /usr/local/shbackup/ && ./sync_vservers.sh >/dev/null
>
>>>> Any idea how I can avoir this error message?
>
> the message most likely originates from within a/the guest,
> which, for whatever reason, tries to do something to the
> controlling terminal (e.g. figure out what kind of terminal
> that is or change some parameters)
>
>>>> I'm running on debian:
>>>> ii util-vserver 0.30.216~r2772-6
>>>> user-space tools for Linux-VServer virtual private servers
>
>>> better update to a more recent version
>
>>>> ii vserver-debiantools 0.6.3
>>>> Tools to manage debian virtual servers
>
>>> better get rid of that completely before it does
>>> some real damage (but maybe it already did)
>
> how was the guest created?
>
>> I wans't aware of that. Can you point me to some docs about it
>> (a quick google and search on the website didn't return info
>> about the dangers)
>
> in short, vserver-debiantools are deprecated because:
>
> - they are debian only and Linux-VServer is distro
> agnostic, so anything done there should better be
> done in util-vserver (upstream)
>
> - the maintainer (Ola Lundqvist) doesn't cooperate
> with Linux-VServer, even worse, he actively blocks
> necessary updates to util-vserver
>
> - the tools are ancient, and as far as I know they
> have not been updated at all, i.e. they still asume
> util-vserver 0.30.204 or similar (from 2005)
>
> - they do not configure guests in a secure way
> - they do not support most of the features
>
> and most importantly:
>
> - they cause constant grieve to the Linux-VServer
> developers, because folks think that they are
> maintained and supported (and thus come here to
> complain about strange effects and/or subtle bugs)
>
> in general, please use on your own risk, and most
> importantly, do not bother the util-vserver or kernel
> developers with effects related to them ....
>
> thanks,
> Herbert
>
>> Thanks
>> Raph
>
>>> best,
>>> Herbert
>
>>>> Thx
>>>> Raph
>
>
>
>
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Received on Wed Aug 24 14:15:27 2011